In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ivan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What I meant was, do you try and stop people _sending mail back to_ Direct
>Mail users? Because that's what the effect of blackholing companies for
>having a 'drop-box' used by a 'spammer' is.
Not exactly. It is more like throwing a fence in jail for the offense of
aiding and abetting theft.
>So, does anyone stand outside the offices of a Direct Mail company and try
>to stop the post being delivered? Or burn their offices down to stop all
>their business? Or threaten to burn them down unless they change their way
>of doing business?
Paul Vixie burned down your office???
Wow man. Like bummer.
Do you have any pictures? Video tape?
(You wouldn't by any chance be hyperventilating and/or exaggerating just
a wee bit, would you?)
>Because, that's the effect of the Vixie RBL system - its blackmail.
Funny. That is exactly that same thing that _all_ of the shameless profiteers
say whenever someone mounts a legitimate boycott in protest against their
unscruplous activities.
>If you did it with the post you'd get arrested.
>There is an issue of free speech here btw.
Ivan, you need to take more lessons on ``spammer speak''. You just aren't
getting the essence of it. You need to hang out in news.admin.net-abuse.email
for awhile. If you do, you will learn that spammers (and the folks who in-
directly make money from them, like you) always talk about ``free speach(tm)''.
(This is somewhat of a standing joke these days in n.a.n-a.e, because the
spammers who show up from time to time to try to excuse their theft of
other people's bandwidth on the basis of ``free speach'' are not, in general,
even literate enough, it seems, to be able to _spell_ these two simple
words, let alone smart enough to understand this lofty ideal _or_ the
reasonable limitations that even _our_ court system here has placed on it.
Of course, over on _your_ side of the pond, you have essentially all of
the same limitations on free speech as we have... specifically you are not
allow to *steal* from people in order to exercise your free speech rights...
*AND* you also have The Official Secrets Act, which is a ridiculous and
pointless limitation on your right of free speech, but that's your problem.)
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