Well, I checked ListZone and my lists were still there, so I fired off a second, less-friendly note. Which they answered within the hour with a fairly snotty response. The key piece being: > Your assumption is completely incorrect. We did not ignore your first > request. Your lists are removed from our production database. > > We just have not sent out an e-mail yet to those who, like you, made this > request. I'm sorry that you were too impatient to wait another a week or > two for your acknowledgment. (note of record. I mailed my first request to be removed on the 22nd. today is the third. Just under two weeks. I don't think that's being impatient. I think that's being kind...) > > On another note, it is unfortunate that you do not wish the large number of > internet users that will access our site to be able to find your mailing > lists, which might be of interest to them and help your beleagured company. > I might also add that your lists are in other mailing list databases, > including LISZT.com and Publicly Accessible Mailing Lists > (www.neosoft.com/internet/paml). Boy, these folks REALLY make me want to work with them... My response to their response was: >>Your assumption is completely incorrect. We did not ignore your first >>request. Your lists are removed from our production database. > > I checked five minutes before sending the second message. They were > there at that time. > >>On another note, it is unfortunate that you do not wish the large number of >>internet users that will access our site to be able to find your mailing >>lists, which might be of interest to them and help your beleagured company. >>I might also add that your lists are in other mailing list databases, >>including LISZT.com and Publicly Accessible Mailing Lists >>(www.neosoft.com/internet/paml). > > Yup. They're there because I agreed to put them there. Ask first > next time. And you should get your act together. The first list you > added to your database of mine had been dead for months. The next > two I checked had significant data errors that made the entries > useless. > > If you can't get it right, don't bother doing it. And don't do it > without asking first. > > If you'd gotten at least SOME of the basics right, I wouldn't have > been nearly as unreceptive. But you're doing me no favors here, so > don't feel bad that I don't feel grateful for whatever it is you're > thinking you're doing, because right now, all I know is it's some > unknown group of people who haven't identified themselves who > screwed up their data entry and didn't ask permission. > > Not a good first impression, Andy. So far, no good impression at all. And assuming they aren't lying about removing me from their database, I guess that's it. But just between you and me, I'll go back in a bit and check.... If you haven't gotten satisfaction from these folks, I guess rattling their cages is going to be necessary. My first note was a polite request. My second note was a formal cease and desist. I guess that caught their attention. Still not at all impressed (and no, they haven't responded to my last note, nor do I expect them to. I also still have no clue who they are, what they plan on doing with this date, why the site exists, and how they got the data in the first place, but....) -- Chuq Von Rospach (Hockey fan? <http://www.plaidworks.com/hockey/>) Apple Mail List Gnome (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Plaidworks Consulting (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.plaidworks.com/> + <http://www.lists.apple.com/> Featuring Winslow Leach at the Piano!
