On Sun, 1 Nov 1998 21:15:13 EST, Marcy Peek wrote: > We hear that Sanford is a notorious spammer. His website address > is http://www.sanfordwallace.com. All of his Philadelphia phone > numbers have been disconnected, although he does reply to emails > sent to his legitimate addresses. One is [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Any information that you have about this person would be appreciated. I tried to contact Sanford. Just curious that Marcy's post was actually one of Sanford's disguised spam sent to this list. And he did responding, said that he already ceased spaming bussines, and Marcy's trouble was caused by his own list provider misconfigured his Listserv... --Eko ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date sent: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:54:47 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Sanford Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Your Ad ? At 11:52 PM 11/4/98 +0700, you wrote: >Well, Guess this was an example of your ad? ;) This post has started a >long thread in List-Managers mailing list. Surely increasing traffic at >your site too! Very smooth... Almost :) Can you post this to that List-Manager mailing list. This scapegoat routine has gone MUCH too far! I haven't been in the spamming business for over a year now. I recently sent this email to the Travel Deals owner. At 09:44 PM 11/1/98 -0500, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-10-30 00:01:56 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > ><< > Sanford will honor all list-deletion requests. > If you wish to be removed from this list... > please hit reply and include the following EXACT text > IN THE *SUBJECT* FIELD... > > DELETE:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The address above will be permanently removed within 48 hours. > >> > >Sanford: > >By the way, as for your excuse that you did not send messages >to the members of our Hot Travel Deals list, you are clearly requesting >in your spams that people send messages to our email address at >Sparklist. This is all the proof that we need that you did intentionally >send spam to all of the members of our list. > That is completely not true... > Sanford will honor all list-deletion requests. > If you wish to be removed from this list... > please hit reply and include the following EXACT text > IN THE *SUBJECT* FIELD... > > DELETE:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In every message that I send, I give those exact instructions for removal. If someone wants to get off of my list, they hit *reply* and include that delete line, which is customized with the unique address for each recipient that gets my mail. This way I know exactly what address to remove! The reason that the outgoing-travel line is in the delete line is because I sent *one* email to that exact address, and sparky relayed it to your whole damn list. Christopher already admitted that he misconfigured your listserv. I didn't want the mail to go to your list. I didn't even know that your list existed in the first place. I sent it to that address, because I received incoming commercial email with that address in it. Everyone on your list, got the identical message, which is why you probably saw so many removal requests with that delete line. >We order you to cease and desist immediately. >Legal action will be taken to cease these activities. > There's nothing for me to cease. Chris advised me that he fixed HIS mistake. You are yelling at the wrong person. If anyone sent email to that one address, it was relayed to your whole list. This is between you and Sparky's list services. >We have a trail of email evidence >that will prove that you engaged in this spamming activity and >that you illegally used the trademarks of Sparklist and Hot Travel Deals >during this spamming activity. > The only thing that I did was send one email, and your listserv company relayed it to your whole list. I can only apologize for sending one email. I didn't do anything to purposely spam your members. I hope that you understand the basics of what happened. You're yelling at the wrong person. -Sanford
