Try "Linux Secrets" by Naba Barkakati.
On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Andrew P. Tasi wrote:
> Hello Becky, John, and List gurus,
>
> I'm in the exact same boat, so if anybody has any recommendations, I'd very
> much appreciate a public response.
>
> My list was moved within one day and I'm *pissed*. The ironic part is that
> I have a nice, live server running Redhat 6.1 that I could be running my
> list on (majordomo is already installed), but I kept my list at Esosoft.
> Why?
> -Convenience - it was worth it to me to pay $5 a month and not have to worry
> about OS or SMTP issues, and to get their silly reports.
> -Clueless - Although I'm very secure with actual MD administration (figured
> out niceties like how to filter HTML and certain addresses), I have *no*
> experience with Linux or Unix, other than setting up a workstation via FTP 2
> weeks ago. I am unfortunately a windows child (and not liking it anymore).
>
> So either I move to another ASP or I become competent with Linux quickly.
> Anybody want to recommend a book or three?
>
> Thank you,
> Andrew P. Tasi
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Becky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 4:38 AM
> Subject: Re: Looking for a new list server
>
>
> > >Hi Everyone,
> > >
> > >Someone else may have already asked but I just joined this list as I am
> > >desperately looking for a new list server using Majordomo. Every list
> owner
> > >with Esosoft has been told that they have merged with Topica and all our
> lists
> > >will be moved within a week. Some people's lists have been moved within
> the
> > >day. Many of us don't want advertising and we are looking for a new
> server as
> > >soon as possible. We also don't want to loose the control over our lists
> as
> > >we have been handling our own Config files. We need something with
> digests
> > >and archives as well. We were paying $5.00 a month for our service with
> > >Esosoft but anything reasonable would be considered. Can any of you
> recommend
> > >a server which you are happy with? It would be greatly appreciated by
> many
> > >homeless lists.
> >
> > For what it's worth you have my sympathy, and if I find a home for my
> > list, which has also just been swallowed by Topica, I'll let you know.
> >
> > Topica does provide digests, though this is far from obvious.
> > Individual subscribers can switch to digest mode at the web site.
> > Topica also archives messages.
> >
> > The ads on messages are currently trivial; they are just an ad for
> > the site itself.
> >
> > I've been with Topica for a few days and my biggest objection is the
> > sheer time it takes to do anything with their foul and kludgy web
> > site. Clearly they *could* provide the kind of email interface we're
> > used to, but they choose not to, because they want to drive traffic
> > to their site and eyeballs for the banner ads there. I estimate it's
> > going to take me an extra couple of hours a month to run my list via
> > their site. At a sensible costing of my time, it would be cheaper to
> > pay typical ISP charges for a majordomo-hosted list.
> >
> > That last point is the one I want to spread among the list-manager
> > community here: these web-based 'free' list services are far from
> > that, when you factor in the additional time it takes to hack through
> > web interfaces designed by clueless idiots instead of banging simple
> > commands at majordomo via email.
> > --
> >
> > John Stevenson
> > Writer, editor, mountain bike bloke
> >
>
