In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, you wrote:

>Ron Guilmette asked Vince Sabio,
>
>| Simple question:  If the spammer COULD HAVE just used his
>| own majordomo, then why didn't he?  Why did he go to all of the trouble
>| to have Topica do his spamming for him?
>
>Because for many it is less trouble to set up a list at a big public listhost
>than to get an OS that runs list server software, get list server software,
>and do all the low-level administrative type things that a big listhost has
>already automated for its users.  If they can get their spam out hit-and-run 
>before the listhost's abuse department closes the list down, that's good
>enough.  Maybe they could have set up Majordomo or another list management
>package, but it was much easier to turn the keys and press the buttons on a
>public listhost.

Yes.  And that was exactly my point.  TOPICA is making life easy for spammers.

>But every time it's been suggested that Onelist or eGroups drop the function
>to add people to lists without their needing to confirm, other listowners
>get up in arms that there are some very important members of their lists who
>never could have managed to join if they had had to confirm, for whom it is
>too daunting to have to use the Reply and Send functions of their mail cli-
>ents to answer a confirmation request, yet without whom the list cannot prop-
>erly serve its purpose.

And that, of course, is pure horse pucky.

Any six-year old kid of average intelligence can figure out (or be taught)
how to relay to an e-mail message.

If this (using e-mail) was rocket science, then millions of ordinary people
wouldn't be doing it.

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