In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On 5 May 00, at 8:51, murr rhame wrote:
>
>> I will not allow anyone to use my mailing lists as a vengeance
>> weapon.  In my humble opinion, running a mailing list with open
>> subscriptions and no confirmations is inexcusable.  This is not a
>> new problem.  I'm quite surprised that a veteran list admin
>> hasn't taken measures to prevent malicious subscriptions.
>
>I agree; however, I would like to see one intermediate level added 
>(beyond open, auto, closed).  What I'd like is open+confirm/auto -- 
>in other words, I'd like users to be able to subzcribe *themselves* 
>without confirmation but only subzcribe *others* with confirmation.

Apparently, you don't understand the issue.

How do you know if someone really is who they claim to be?

That's the issue.

Like they say, ``On the Internet nobody know you're a dog.''

On the Internet, nobody knows that *I* am *not* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

Someone _claiming_ to be me signed me up half a dozen Apple mailing
lists recently.

Apple believed that claim, blindly, and without any supporting evidence,
even though it was clearly wrong.

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