On 16 May 2002, at 9:27, murr rhame wrote: > On Thu, 16 May 2002, Sean Brunnock wrote: > > > I think it's odd that newspapers love to run stories about > > mailmen who toss mail in the trash rather than deliver it, > > but you never hear about ISPs that play games with email.
> As long as spammers exist, I fully support the right of ISPs to > block spam sites. I also fully support the right of customers to > complain when an ISP gets the filtering wrong. ... Meta question -- in my experience, when one site 'blocks' another, they do it by blocking ALL traffic from the blocked site. This strikes me as bogus on two fronts: 1) it prevents anyone from figuring out what's going on [a user emails me "How come I'm not getting your list", and I can't email back, since my email gets blocked]. 2) is arguably a violation of 2822 [which to my reading *requires* that sites accept email addressed to 'postmaster']. I was wondering if any of you have run across an ISP with enough of a clue to [IMO] 'get it right' and leave postmaster open so that there's a peephole through which the problem/misunderstanding/whatever can be worked out? I haven't.... > ...I figure if a > subscriber isn't getting their mail because their ISP is > filtering, it's up to the customer/subscriber to read the riot > act to their ISP. All true, but often the subscriber can't figure out what's wrong, the ISPs virtually NEVER tell their customers what they've done, and it is left as a big mystery to figure out what's going on [with the added fillip that you can't email the customer [or the ISP] to explain/probe]. /Bernie\ -- Bernie Cosell Fantasy Farm Fibers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Pearisburg, VA --> Too many people, too few sheep <--
