At 5:25 PM -0700 7/2/02, JC Dill wrote:
><x-flowed>On 11:55 AM 7/2/02, Michael C. Berch wrote:
> >On Tuesday, July 2, 2002, at 11:35  AM, JC Dill wrote:
> >> Errors-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >Aha. Didn't notice that until Tom Neff pointed it out.
> >
> >You will definitely want to remove that from your postings.
>
>1)  I can't remove something I didn't add.  There is no errors-to entry
>within my eudora.ini file, so this header is built by the mail client
>itself.  I can't find any way to get Eudora to not add it (although, by
>making a manual entry in the .ini I can probably specify it to something
>else, which wouldn't be any better than letting Eudora specify it).  I've
>been using Eudora for 6 years and sent and received many thousands and
>thousands of emails in this time, and this is the first time someone has
>tried to blame some mailing list behavior complaint I have on my choice of
>mail client.

If your client isn't adding it, then perhaps your outbound SMTP relay 
is?  All I know is, the header is already there by the time the 
message gets to GreatCircle.COM, and we leave it there.

>This leads me to:
>
>2)  I'm on literally dozens of lists (technical, hobby, high volume, low
>volume, large and small), including lists run on majordomo (1), mailman,
>listserv, listmanager, and yahoogroups.  On none of these other lists do I
>have the bounce problems I'm encountering on *this* list.
>
>Thus, it's still my belief that this list is improperly configured, not my
>mail client.   From this ObList-Manager's perspective, a discussion list
>should *always* make itself the reply recipient for bounces of any messages
>it receives and then retransmits (to addresses unknown to the original
>sender), so that the list manager can address the problem - because ONLY
>the list manager can address the problem (remove the stale addresses).

Maybe everybody else in the world is stripping out Errors-To: headers 
on inbound list postings, or overwriting them with their own, but I 
doubt it.  Maybe most other lists have fewer stale addresses than 
List-Managers; that's entirely possible, we aren't real aggressive 
about pruning the list, for lack of time.

As MCB said, we'll see about stripping out Errors-To: headers on 
inbound postings, as a favor to you and everybody else.  But this 
really _is_ your own problem, either with your client or your relay 
host.  If you don't want weird bounces, you shouldn't be putting 
Errors-To: headers in your outgoing messages.


-Brent

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Brent Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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