On Sunday, February 23, 2003, at 11:27 AM, Roger B.A. Klorese wrote:
Rich Kulawiec wrote:
Well, then it's an awareness issue at your side.FUD. I'm unaware of any properly-run opt-in mailing lists that have been mislabeled as spam and "wrongly blocked".
Here's some stuff to help awareness. First, the couple of links you should read if you don't want to go through all these links:
http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000118.html http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000109.html
Other stuff I've blogged on the topic:
http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000081.html http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000144.html http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000149.html http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000170.html http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000170.html http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000182.html http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000184.html http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000200.html http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000096.html
It's getting brutal out there. I've got a bunch more stuff I haven't had time to write up.
I'm glad rich doesn't think there's a problem. I wish I could live in whatever bubble of reality he's found, because out here with the rest of us, e-mail is rapidly falling apart, not just because of spam, but because of the increasingly hysterial (and badly done) reactions to the spam.
I have great sympathy for the people trying to stop the spam, but it's gone beyond "baby with the bathwater" to "turning the flame thrower on the fricking bathtub". And they are increasingly uninterested in hearing when their "anti-spam" efforts backfire and turn into an even bigger problem.
In other cases, complaints of spam came *because* of confirmation messages -- we've been listed at Spamcop because of users getting subscribe-slammed and reporting our confirmation messages as spam.
I've found spamcop quite clueful about these problems, and have been more than willing to remove those complaints and ban the complainers from submitting to Spamcop in the future. They're one of the few blackhole groups I've looked at that I'm willing to support.
-- Chuq Von Rospach, Architech [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/
No! No! Dead girl, OFF the table! -- Shrek
