Hey Jake, I agree with what Johnny said. I would say it's necessary if you
need that extra edge in a competitive keyword area. From my experience, the
bots give higher points to folder names than they would to query string
parameters. For example under keyword: "texas jobs"  

I believe this link: 
www.mywebsite.com/index.cfm/jobs/texas

would get more points than:
www.mywebsite.com/index.cfm?jobs=texas

When you are judging solely based on the link characters themselves not the
content of the page.

I have also noticed that subdomains are even higher points than folder
names.
Texas_jobs.mywebsite.com/index.cfm?jobs=texas

Works even better. All you need to do is setup a wildcard subdomain on your
DNS to point to the same place as your 'www' A record. The subdomain will
essentially be ignored by your webserver and you can build these links into
your pages for added points. Be careful with this one though, the links need
to go to relevant content or someone could report your site to the search
engine (this is very bad).

So if it's easy for you to implement, I say give it a try. But don't spend
half of your site optimization hours working on it. They would be much
better spend generating <title> names, <h1> titles, subdomaining, etc...

- Daniel Elmore


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 6:09 PM
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Subject: Re: Search Engine Friendly URLs

Thanks for the history. That puts all the pieces together I've heard 
discussion about.

So do you think it's really that big of a deal these days to make the 
/index.cfm/action/something syntax? Or is it just a legacy thing that 
people hold onto more for nostalgia than for necessity?

Jake

Daniel Elmore wrote:

>The term "search engine safe" was coined in the early search engine days
>because spiders would skip links with &'s and ?'s when indexing your site.
>The reason, AFAIK, was because the search engines didn't want to store
pages
>with dynamic content. Thinking it would degrade the accuracy of keyword
>searches. This became a ridiculous idea as the web matured. Many static
>pages are generated dynamically and most pages that use query strings are
>actually creating "static" content. A link to a product description page
for
>example. So to get around this people started writing links like so:
>http://www.mysite.com/index.cfm/action/something
>
>and then using a filter to convert the link. This fooled the spiders into
>thinking it's a link to a page with static content. There are plenty of web
>filters for the various middleware languages that allow your web server to
>translate that url into the actual url.
>
>Things have slowly changed though and the spider bots are starting to allow
>query strings with more and more attributes. So the value of the web
filters
>and the work involved to code your links like that is degrading rapidly.
>
>So in a nutshell, (I just realized that this tangent has not specially
>answered your question) a search engine safe URL is constituted by having a
>URL with no query string syntax (& and = and &).
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Of Jake
>Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 2:07 PM
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>Subject: Search Engine Friendly URLs
>
>All,
>
>What is the consensus on what constitutes a "search engine safe" URL? 
>Would something like:
>
>www.mysite.com/index.cfm?action=something
>
>or
>
>www.mysite.com/index.cfm?action=something&ID=190
>
>be SE safe?
>
>Jake
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