More grist for the mill -- Michael Dillon - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check the website for my Internet World articles - http://www.memra.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:00:25 -0800 From: JC Dill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What does the NIC in InterNIC mean? "Network Incompetence Consortium" At 03:48 PM 1/22/99 -0500, you wrote: >On Sat, Jan 16, 1999 at 06:36:38PM -0800, JC Dill wrote: >> The don't have a TOS or AUP that makes the current spam violations a >> forbidden practice. Because they don't forbid it, they could get sued by >> those spammers if they just block them. > >They don't need it. They are protecting themselves against a >denial of service attack. There is plenty of case law on that already. I'm not sure DOS applies here. A typical DOS attack has no "redeeming characteristics". In this case, the spam is for the alleged purpose of registering a domain name, the exact stated purpose of the solicited communication (InterNIC TELLS them this is the way to register a domain, and they don't tell them that it is forbidden to do it repeatedly). They can logically claim that aren't trying to shut down the servers, they are trying to use them, in the way they are directed to use them (sending them requested email to conduct requested business). That's why I think there is tricky legal waters to be navigated and why they haven't yet instituted any real changes. I just thought of a simple and presumably legal valid change they could make almost immediately: Charge a $69 registration fee and a $1 *application* fee, PER APPLICATION. Total fee for normal registrations will still be $70, but for spammers it would be thousands per registration because they could count all the duplicate applications. Then enforce it. That will stop the spammers, they won't want to risk be billed/sued for thousands of dollars per application that they send in for the "on hold" but not yet available domain names. And it won't hurt anyone who follows the rules and just submits a single application per domain. And since the spammers will stop flooding the servers, the servers will properly process our single submissions again. Too bad that no one at InterNIC appears to be interested in listening. I have *repeatedly* asked to be placed in contact with their current VP of Business Development. I used to discuss issues like this with Butch Corson when he was there. I don't have the name of his successor and no one will release this information. sigh. If anyone HAS this information, I would really like to receive it. jc - Send 'unsubscribe' in the body to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to leave. Eat sushi frequently. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the human contact address. __________________________________________________ To receive the digest version instead, send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To SUBSCRIBE forward this message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNSUBSCRIBE, forward this message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Problems/suggestions regarding this list? Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___END____________________________________________
