Don't take my comments below to mean that I don't think the idea has merit.
I am just trying to flush it out further.

Chuck

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Dillon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 1999 1:49 PM
> To:   IFWP Discussion List
> Subject:      [ifwp] Re: What does the NIC in InterNIC mean? "Network
> Incom petence  Consortium" (fwd)
> 
> On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> 
> > Your idea below is interesting.  How would you propose collecting the $1
> > from those who only apply?
> 
> First of all, give J.C. Dill credit for the idea.
> 
> Next, you would only accept applications from known verified entities. In
> other words, we would all have to go through some kind of process to
> validate our existence with the Internic before you would accept an
> application from us. For grandfathering purposes, you could consider
> anyone who has ever paid with a credit card or a check to be validated.
> The reason for validation is so that in the case of application spamming,
> you know who to chase after with a credit agency or small claims court.
        [Gomes, Chuck]  This would mean that a verification process would
have to be established.  Anyone not having already been verified would be
rejected or put into a prepayment queue.  Organizations or individuals who
want to submit requests would need to have some form of secure ID.  That is
certainly doable.  It might be difficult to grandfather people who have made
payments in the past.  Some people have paid for one in ten names, so a
minimum level would have to be set.  Some organizations who submit requests
are not the billing contact.  Requests from the same organization do not
always come from the same location.  These are all workable issues but would
take some time to implement.

> Now once I am validated with the Internic and have recieved my NIC handle
> (MD130 is mine) I can then register domain names at the rate of $69 for
> the first two years and $34 for annual renewals plus teh $1 application
> fee in each instance. It would even be reasonable to charge something like
> $5 for the validation process and NIC handle in the first place.
        [Gomes, Chuck]  Are you proposing that we charge $1 even if the
request is rejected?  If so, how would that be collected and more
importantly enforced.  That was the gist of my original question.  A
collection process can be fairly costly.  Collecting $1 would not cover the
costs.

> Assuming this system is in place, when you receive an application without
> a valid handle, you bounce it back. If the handle is valid but not
> associated with the given domain, you bounce it back. 
        [Gomes, Chuck]  How would a handle be associated with a domain that
is not yet registered?
> But when you havea
> valid handle for the given domain, you accept the application and charge a
> $1 fee. However, if you receive more than x applications for a single
> domain you start bouncing them all back out of concern for your customer's
> financial well-being and your own concern about being able to collect the
> fees. The number x could be something like 20 or 25.
        [Gomes, Chuck]  Does every request (duplicate or not) cost $1?

> Admittedly, bouncing back a stream of thousands of applications per day
> will take a toll on the servers, but once the word gets around that
> spamming the NIC makes no economic or practical sense, then it will stop.
> 
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