Jonathan Zittrain wrote:

> ...I want to know...whether there's an IFWP...

There has been an IFWP.  We were all part of it.  We met in the
four corners of the earth and on this list to work out a decent
and civil concensus.  We were ready to meet in a wrap-up meeting
to resolve our remaining differences.  That effort was preempted. 
But, the IFWP constituents are still assembled.  This list could
be the membership of ICANN if "we/you" wanted to take advantage of
an invented wheel.  But, that would be too easy.  Instead,
"we/you/they" want to throw out the good we created over the past
year and start again.  I, for one, am completely baffled by this
phenomenon.  


> that could have its own idea about its respective streetcorner.

It/we could have its/our own idea about a lot of things if we ever
took a vote to determine what we actually want.  Without voting,
or some other mechanism for determining consensus and deciding
upon action, there is no meaningful way of determining our ideas
about anything.  


>   If people just post interchangeably, why have two lists and fragment the 
>discussions?

As you know, that was my objection to the creation of a new
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" discussion list.  
 
> ...Selective filtering by each listreader is meant to address that, but it
> creates fuzz when we're each essentially reading different subsets of the
> list depending on whom we filter.  

I have a different impression.  We seem to be engaging each other
in discussion.  The problem is the lack of a mechanism for
translating our individual conclusions into group resolution of
issues.  We don't vote. 

> Is there any way, architecturally, to do
> better for discussion of the issues than what we have now?

No, not if the only purpose of the list is to spout off.

Yes, if our purpose is to arrive at conclusions and take action. 
If that were the case, we would have to elect a moderator and take
votes.

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