Bob,

In my opinion, you have to let it go, or let the people go.
If you study implosion and black holes (like ICANN) you
will see that there is an event horizon. There is a boundary
and people crossing that boundary will eventually be pulled
into the vortex. In my opinion, it is sad, but reality that people
like Stef are doomed to disappear into the black hole. There
is nothing you can do. It is like watching someone who has
gotten on a boat just as it departs the dock. They move
further and further away, and your choice is to jump in and
try to swim after them, yet, your instinct is to stay on the dock.

We could go on and on...but I refer you to John's Revelation.
He does a good job of describing the situation which has
not changed for many years.


Jim Fleming
Unir Corporation
vPC + C+@ + IPv8 + 2,048 TLDs...this network solution is simple...


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Allisat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Einar Stefferud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 9:12 AM
Subject: [IFWP] IFWP: Founding Convention?


>
>Einar Stefferud wrote:
>+ By what measure is 3 days maximum elapsed time deemed sufficient to
>+ obtain indepth and thoughtful comments (or suupport) from the global
>+ Interent Community?
>+
>+ Sahdes of IAHC...  they at least allowed us to have a couple of weeks
>+ before reading and ignoring our efforts.
>+
>+ But, I suppose this is called trust building, to be able to show NTIA
>+ that they have waced their ideas under our noses and tht our responses
>+ were to weak to bother with;-)...
>
> I respect your opinions Mr. Stefferud. But there
> is a time when mere opinionating is either a sign
> of true weakness or an indication of at least
> grudging support for that to which on is allegedly
> in opposition against. And there is a time, usually
> arising simultaneous to that, in which decisive
> action is called upon us all. Merely griping about
> ICANN is insufficient. I suggest moving our duffs
> off of those comfortable intellectual divans of ours
> and into some form of civilly disobedient activity
> to reverse the course of events. Or kindly allow
> others to do so and show them the decency of our
> support, fund raising abilities, etc.
>
> Towards this end... perhaps we should, as some have
> been saying all along, set to forming our own NEWCO,
> in our own image, regardless of what others attempt.
> We utilize this list as the founding convention and
> move, with speed, from there. What say you all? After
> all, authority is a matter of general confidence and,
> should we prove ourselves worthy, what more likely
> successor to Postel than others who uphold the best
> traditions and principles of not only the Net but also
> our various cultures in combination and synthesis.
>
> Bob Allisat
>
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