Time to enter the modern age Ronda. All things change. Rather than embrace this change, which already occured quite some time ago, you are doing everything you can to revert back history. Quite a waste of effort. And I won't touch the inconsistencies and misstatements you made below, they've been covered on this list too many times in the past. Come to think of it, you never did answer those posts that pointed this out to you clearly. But none of us expected you to really either. You claim there is little understand of the Internet, I counter saying it is you have little understanding of the Internet today, and can't bring yourself to leave your limited academic view of the Internet to accept the modern day Internet. On 08-Jan-99 Ronda Hauben wrote: > I have a different avenue of concern than usually gets brought up > on the IFWP or other lists. > > What I am realizing is that with all the talk about the Internet > as on the IFWP list, there is actually very little understanding > or concern for the Internet. > > The only way that it was possible to build the Internet, was that > there were computer pioneers who were both supported to do > basic research (though DARPA mainly, but also Bell Labs had a role). > > And that these computer pioneers respected the technology of the > computer and of packet switching networking and were able to > therefore figure out how to make it all work. > > At the base of their philosophy were notions of open interfaces, > i.e. of the fact that the user had to be able to design his or > her side of the interface with the computer and thus make it > something that would be of use. > > Also as a recent draft paper I am working on about the Internet > and Communictions, at the base of the Internet work was a > recognition that the networks that would be connected via > internetworking were autonomous and that autonomy had to be > respected and supported. > > That is, as far as I understand thus far, some of the need for > cooperative processes that have been needed to build and nourish the > Internet. > > Those seeking to make money off of the Internet and to commercialize > it, are in general concerned about making their money, *not* about > the Internet or its users. > > Despite this, it is important that there be those who care > about the Internet who find a way to study and support the > development and scaling of the Internet. > > There really needs to be a research institute devoted to this, > but I have found that the attack by commercial forces is so > great it is even hard to get papers accepted at conferences > (like for example the Internet Society conferences) nevermind > get any support for the kind of research that recognizes the > importance of the Internet and the need to study and research > what its needs are and what it makes possible. > > Thus the Internet is treated very different from the computer > it seems, especially now. It is used and abused, but not > cared for or recognized by the powers that be. > > However, hopefully this will all change once folks realize that > the Internet is an important human-computer-computer_communication > symbiosis and as such it needs care and support and understanding, > rather than power plays and strip mining. > > Ronda > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Netizens: On the History and Impact > of Usenet and the Internet > http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/netbook/ > in print edition ISBN 0-8186-7706-6 > > __________________________________________________ > To receive the digest version instead, send a > blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To SUBSCRIBE forward this message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, forward this message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Problems/suggestions regarding this list? Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___END____________________________________________ ---------------------------------- E-Mail: William X. Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 08-Jan-99 Time: 11:29:01 ---------------------------------- __________________________________________________ To receive the digest version instead, send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To SUBSCRIBE forward this message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNSUBSCRIBE, forward this message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Problems/suggestions regarding this list? Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___END____________________________________________
