Ken and all,
Well Ken, all I can say is, Try practicing what you preach. POT KETTLE
BLACK!
Ken Stubbs wrote:
> good morning all (i think it's morning here in singapore.. after flying and
> waiting in airports for 37.5 hours in the last 2 days)
>
> i have been travelling for the last 3-4 days but monitoring my e-mail
> closely...
>
> you know ..ITS REALLY GETTING PRETTY SAD ......
>
> on all sides all i see is sniping and personal attacks (and this is the case
> on both lists).
> we seem to be more obsessed with "who gave money to who ?" (as if $500 or
> $1000 is going to drastically affect either stef's or kent's perspectives).
>
> its gotten to the point where a full 25-35% of all the mail on the lists are
> some useless sort of allusion or criticism of one person and it's coming
> from both sides..
>
> i would like to personally commend kilnam chon and others like anthony,
> tadao, mikki and roberto and jay who are "trying like hell" to keep these
> lists focused on their original purpose.
>
> i would be inclined to say that the next few days here in singapore are
> pretty dam critical and we need appeal to all parties involved to try not to
> get "too distracted"
>
> best wishes to all
>
> ken stubbs
> p.s. one additional favor... it would really help if all of us would please
> try to keep the subject line of your messages more relevent to the content
> (i kept the above subject line up just to show how far we have drifted on
> this thread)
>
> Original Message-----
> From: Roeland M.J. Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 5:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [IFWP] Re: Time out Re: ORSC Protest of NIST Solicitation No.
> 52SBNT9C1020
>
> >At 02:27 PM 2/25/99 -0800, Kent Crispin wrote:
> >
> >>That's very creative. Stef. Perhaps you could point me to the
> >>hundreds of mail messages from you that are "harshly critical" of NSI?
> >>In all honesty, I don't remember a *single* one.
> >
> >Stef is a person of moderation, he wasn't overly harsh of CORE either. Are
> >you saying that this makes him friendly to CORE? I have seen him voice
> >critique of both.
> >
> >>However, I could easily go through my archives and pull down a random
> >>sample of 50 or so messages from you that are indeed harshly
> >>critical of IAHC/CORE/ICANN/IANA etc. I think, in fact, that the
> >>objective external observer would say that NSI and ORSC have been in
> >>bed for some time now.
> >
> >Where do you get this from? MHSC supports the ORSC position, are you saying
> >that MHSC is "in bed" with NSI? Although I have criticized NSI dispute
> >resolution policy severely, I have also written in support of a measured
> >approach wrt NSI. That said, I don't think you can get anyone to believe
> >that MHSC is an NSI supporter. At least, no one who has ever read one of my
> >posts on the subject.
> >
> >I have long made it a practice to avoid appearing to speak for ORSC, as
> >only Stef is authorized to do so. However, this once, I will speak in
> >defence of ORSC. The goals of the ORSC are clearly stated on the
> >www.open-rsc.org web-site. There are no hidden agenda, that I know about.
> >ORSC activity, in the past year and WRT IFWP, have given me absolute
> >confidence in ORSC dealing, reputation, and motives, to be exactly as
> >stated in official communications. Were this not the case, MHSC and ORSC
> >would have parted company long ago. Please note, this does not mean that
> >MHSC is in 100% agreement with ALL of ORSC views. Any group has its
> >internal disagreements, but we have a common goal.
> >
> >I would say that your external observer has been "coached".
> >
> >
> >___________________________________________________
> >Roeland M.J. Meyer -
> >e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Internet phone: hawk.lvrmr.mhsc.com
> >Personal web pages: http://staff.mhsc.com/~rmeyer
> >Company web-site: http://www.mhsc.com
> >___________________________________________________
> > KISS ... gotta love it!
> >
> >
> >
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