so then wouldn't the trademark apply only to the use of that string with regard
to naming within the MHSC network and not the root zone/entire internet?

On 01-Mar-99 Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
>  At 12:35 AM 3/1/99 -0800, Bill Lovell wrote:
> >At 01:39 AM 2/28/99 -0800, you wrote:
> >
> > However, I acknowledge that ICANN is a different beastie than
> >>NSI. BTW, from a tech stand-point, I already have the TLDs running
> >>internally and providing service, for which I get paid. Also, the ICANN is
> >>not the sole gate-keeper of the Internet.
> >>
> >>Uh, I'm on the net whether ICANN likes it or not. Therefore your first "if"
> >>fails. Also, I don't have to state a dependency of getting into the root. I
> >>can provide the service under a private TLD and thus qualify for trademark
> >>registration. Anyone using my name servers (which include my own
> >>root-server cluster) can access my TLD. Now I want wider access for the TLD
> >>and I petition the ICANN for root-server inclusion. Failing there, I file
> >suit.
> >></hypothetical>
> >>
> >Picking out just one aspect of this bit, you say you're on the net whether
> >ICANN likes it or not, but at a particular stage you are not included in the
> >root server.  So, who knows you're there?  
>  
>  a.root-srvr.mhsc.net
>  b.root-srvr.mhsc.net
>  c.root-srvr.mhsc.net
>  d.root-srvr.mhsc.net
>  e.root-rvr.mhsc.net
>  
>  Which are indirectly available through our NS(n).MHSC.NET name server
>  system. 
>  
> >Will I get your site if I enter it here from the wilds of Oregon? 
>  
>  Yes, our name server system are available to the net. We can give selective
>  access via routing. We do dynamic routing via gated. MHSC has an ASN with
>  ARIN and we are multi-homed through four different up streams. 
>  
> >What DNS will you be on? 
>  
>  MHSC.NET
>  
> >Do you show up in anyone's whois? Which one(s)?  
>  
>  whois.InterNIC.net
>  
> >Could I email you, and you email me? 
>  
>  That gets a little tricky. If we want to connect our private TLDs to the
>  Internet mail system we have to do a little MX magic. This wouldn't be
>  required if they were in the roots.
>  
> >Can you get the newsgroups, download messages and upload your
> >own?  
>  
> >From inside our private TLDs, the users have full access to the Internet.
>  If the external hosts use the MHSC.NET name servers, or secondary their
>  data, they can access our internal TLDs.
>  
> >What if I PINGed you? etc., etc.  In short, what would you have
> >if you were included in the root server that you don't have now?  
>  
>  Full public name server resolution not completely dependent on MHSC.NET
>  name servers. You must understand that the root server system is merely a
>  lookup of other name servers. It does not provide the TLD info by itself,
>  only the reference to the TLD root-servers. MHSC, as a TLD registry, would
>  have to run it's own TLD root-servers, as would any other TLD registry, as
>  does NSI.
>  
> >Who would your alternative gate keeper(s) be?
>  
>  The NS(n).MHSC.NET name server system.
>  
> >These are not smart alec questions: I just want to make sure we're
> >operating from the same premises. Uh, logical premises, that is. :-)
>  
>  Understood.
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Date: 01-Mar-99
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