Kevin and all,

  ICANN and WIPO have nearly from the beginning continually
espoused one thing and practiced another.  We (INEGroup) have
mearly pointed this out when and where it occurs and well as
proposing a sometimes very different approach to the process
as others have done likewise  Folks like WIlliam Walsh whom 
himself was accused by his former employer, .TJ ccTLD NIC, 
of FRAUD and wrongful appropriation of funds, has made many 
attempts to mislead and misconstrue our points of view, yet 
oddly we share some of his points very strongly.

  I hope and doubt that Chris Oakes feels he has been credibility has
been damaged nor should he.  The terrible attitudes of opposing
positions has fostered overly heated responses on all sides from
time to time, and this will most likely continue unless or until ICANN
"Initial" and Interim board and WIPO, takes seriously its responsibility
of the NTIA/ICANN/MoU and the requirements of the White Paper..

Kevin M. Kelly wrote:

> Dave Crocker wrote:
> >Ignoring someone breaking into a home is apathy.  Ignoring someone playing
> >with themselves is not.  We need to be careful to distinguish the type of
> >aberrant behavior and treat it accordingly.  When the behavior does not do
> >direct damage to others, but IS encouraged by receiving serious and
> >repeated responses, then it's not only ok to ignore the contributor, it is
> >the preferred treatment.
> >
>
> Granted it's a difficult issue.  Decisions by organizations like ICANN and
> WIPO may (or will) alter the way we use the Internet.  Thus,
> misrepresentations to these groups has the potential to do damage.
> Moreover, some on this list may argue that these misrepresentation have done
> damage.  Indeed, the writer of that Wired article may feel that his
> credibility has been tarnished.  Thus, it is quite possible that these
> charades have lessened the credibility of everyone on the Domain Policy
> List.  In these instance, I'm not quite sure about you presumption of no
> damage.
>
> However, I have been concerned about the individual or individuals WHO HAVE
> ENCOURAGED this pathological behavior by adding credibility to the existence
> of the "organization."  Although perhaps intending to destroy it's
> credibility I believe they (and not its detractors) are responsible for the
> recent escalation of fictitious events.  In those instances, I agree and
> would add that ignoring the behavior would have been preferable, intelligent
> and honorable!
>
> I am sorry we have spend so much bandwidth on this thread.  But I do believe
> it is that an important to at least maintain our current level of
> credibility.
>
> Kevin M. Kelly
> http://www.KMKelly.net
> http://www.KellyWebworks.com
> http://www.HinterNIC.net
>
>

Regards,


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