George and all, Good points here George, and I completely agree. ARIN has been in question for it's very existence ever sense Jon Postel (Once a member of the ARIN Board) decided to split up IP allocation assignments due to the IANA's inability to handle the load back in early 1996. Their policies with respect to startup companies getting the allocations they need based on the restrictive policies that ARIN invokes through RFC's 1918, 2050 and 1917 are a barrier to good competition that were both unnecessary and evasive or harmful the ISP industry, and remain so. It seems to me that the NTIA and Becky Burr needs and has needed to step in here an rectify these problems for some time but have either refused or neglected to do so, for what reason I am not aware of.... George Robbins wrote: > > Jim Elsenbeck wrote: > > > > > > I'm getting closer to my start date, and my backbone > > > provider contacted me (for the 3rd time) about my IP > > > needs. They said that ARIN just changed their policy > > > so they can't give me a class-C address, only 128 IP > > > numbers. > > > > <putting on his ARIN AC chair hat> > > > > Granted the board doesn't have to notify the AC of any policy changes, but I > > have a feeling they would have if they had done this. > > > > So I doubt that this has happened. > > > > ARIN did lower the longest allocation from a /19 to a /20 a few months ago, > > which may be what they are talking about. > > The problem is most likely that the provider is having trouble getting > any additional address space out of ARIN or their provider under the > constraints of the ARIN rules and then interpreting how those rules > apply to *their* customers. > > We have a boatload of customers who were given out address space based > on the notion of a Class-C to each leased line or colo-customer. Many > never reached 25% utilization, but forcing them to renumber or condense > scatter-shot address allocations to make room for new customers or new > rules isn't especially practical from a business perspective. > > The result is severe difficulty justifying new address space from ARIN > which would be more wisely allocated according to current rules, while > immeidate business needs - new customers with blocks of previous-provider > address space, DSL, etc mount. > > ARIN may have stopped the hemmorage of address space, but it's more by > putting insurmountable barriers of red tape in the way of allocation > than anything else (IMHO). > > The best advice (short of shopping around for a more generous provider) > is to take the /25 and use it up, if the provider is playing fair > they'll promptly issue you the rest of that one and the next time a > /24, and so on. You can also document your *immediate* needs and > see if you can justify a /24. > > George > - > Send 'unsubscribe' in the body to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to leave. > Eat sushi frequently. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the human contact address. Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng. Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Number: 972-447-1894 Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
