Hi Andy,

As far as I can tell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is
*still* not receiving *any* IFWP postings.
I have been subscribed from the beginning,
and I have never unsubscribed.

I've spent weeks trying to track this problem
down.  I have made public inquiries, I have made
private inquiries, and I have even made inquiries
with my ISP (Mindspring).  For their part, they 
have spent weeks reviewing my email trying to 
figure out the problem.  (Note ==> they have
just given up, believing that it is a *list* 
problem).

Contrary to your assurances, as of right *now*, 
your problems have not been solved -- I am still
not receiving postings to [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-(

Jay.


At 1/2/99, 01:58 PM, interactivehq.org pop wrote:
>THE IFWP IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE AN OPEN LIST.
>NO ONE HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF THE LIST.
>
>Some people may not have been receiving their mail due to errors in our
>nameserver entries, which would cause your ISP to reject messages from the
>list.  These technical problems, they are my fault, and should be fixed by
>now.
>
>If you have a question as to your status on this list, or are having trouble
>receiving mail, feel free to contact me directly.  I will fix it.
>
>My name and phone number are on this message, my personal email is in the
>footer of every message.  I do respond promptly to problems.
>
>The DNS and TLD conspiracy theories that populate this list should not
>extend to the management of the list itself.  This is an open and
>honestly-run list.
>
>-- Andy
>
>_________________________________________
>Andy Sernovitz -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Association for Interactive Media
>1301 Connecticut Ave., NW, 5th Floor
>Washington, DC 20036
>202-408-0008  / fax: 202-408-0111
>http://www.interactivehq.org
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>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jonathan Zittrain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, January 01, 1999 2:27 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: Jim Dixon; Richard J. Sexton; Andy Sernovitz
>Subject: Open/closed mailing lists
>
>
>Jim and Richard,
>
>If IFWP is now a closed list, and involuntarily purged of certain earlier
>members, I'll stop posting to it and ask to be de-subscribed myself.
>
>As the graf of my msg you quote below suggests, I certainly don't/didn't
>mean to post exclusively to IFWP even with it as an open list--though I did
>mean to stay within the bounds of netiquette as I understand it by not
>cross-posting general discussion to a bunch of lists.  I'll certainly post
>all membership-related stuff to open-rsc.
>
>Andy, you run the list, right?  Is what Jim says true?  ...JZ
>
>At 10:09 AM 1/1/99 , you wrote:
>>On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, Jonathan Zittrain wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure we'll post our round of questions and answers to as many
>existing
>>> lists as make sense and whose owners don't mind.  Domain-policy, orsc,
>and
>>> ifwp, not to mention any list the ICANN membership committee might set
>up,
>>> seem right, though I'm not fond of cross-posting generally, and after
>this
>>> message will stop doing so--sticking just to IFWP--even as you're posting

>>
>>The IFWP list is no longer an open list.  When the list was restored
>>after going down on 11 December, certain people found that they had
>>been taken off the list and could not resubscribe.  Others receive
>>messages from the list but cannot post to it.  Under these circumstances
>>it is wholly inappropriate to regard the IFWP as a suitable list for
>>posting information to the Internet community at large or to those
>>involved with the IFWP.
>>
>>I have made a number of attempts to contact the list operators; these
>>have been ignored.  I know that others have done the same.
>
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