Surely it is the economic liberalism fostered by internet trade in 
commerce, ideas and content that means that either the question has 
to be answered by global regulation or by some 'unseen hand'. There 
was a test conference on racism on the internet sponsored by UNHCHR 
in mid-1997 at which the partisans of sovereignty were completely 
overwhelmed by the technology of transfer internet offers. ICANN 
isn't the right forum, and supporters of freedom will not want a 
forum at all, but if a forum is required the countries can't do it, 
any more than they can in commerce or law. It is surprising to see 
such sentiments from an iconoclast such as Ms Dyson.

MM

Esther Dyson wrote:
> 
> I think the notion of any worldwide body regulating spam or porn or content,
> which should be regulated within commmunities, is scary.  These are not
> issues that need to be decided on a worldwide basis.
> 
> Esther
> 
> At 03:46 AM 12/04/99 -0400, Jay Fenello wrote:
> >
> >
> >FYI:
> >
> >
> >>Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 13:27:00 -0400
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>From: Jay Fenello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Subject: Re: [IFWP] COMMENTS ON M.A.C. RECOMMENDATIONS of MARCH 18
> >>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>
> >>At 05:08 AM 4/11/99 , Ellen Rony wrote:
> >>>IMHO, a membership that is all-inclusive moves ICANN closer to center stage
> >>>as a governance body -- a thought which makes me shudder.  While we know
> >>>that ICANN was established *solely* as an administrative body for the DNS,
> >>>I can imagine that a universal, no-barrier membership body may have
> >>>different assumptions or expectations of ICANN's corporate role -- turning
> >>>to it for complaints about spam and porn and copyright infringement, none
> >>>of which are issues for ICANN. ,
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi Ellen,
> >>
> >>ICANN has *always* been about Internet Governance.
> >>
> >>Even while the White Paper and Ira Magaziner were
> >>talking about the "administrative management of
> >>coordinated technical functions for the Internet,"
> >>Larry Irving and Ira Magaziner were talking about
> >>the establishment of Internet Governance!  (It
> >>just depended on the audience ;-)
> >>
> >>ICANN is already taking far reaching positions on
> >>Intellectual Property ownership and rights, and it's
> >>only a matter of time before they tackle issues like
> >>spam, porn, etc.
> >>
> >>We'd all be better off if we just accept this
> >>fact, and respond accordingly.
> >>
> >>
> >>Respectfully,
> >>
> >>Jay Fenello
> >>President, Iperdome, Inc.
> >>404-943-0524  http://www.iperdome.com
> >>
> >
> >
> 
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