Ed and all,

Ed Gerck wrote:

> Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > Ed and all,
> >
> > Ed Gerck wrote:
> > ...
> > > 3. Outside of those list of categories, nope, the TM is not valid. For example,
> > > if "DOGS.COM" was not registered in the US as a TM for a dancing team then that
> > > use is open.  As another example, the BAYARD case I mentioned is both a  Belgian
> > > TM for sport rifles and a Brazilian TM for sport shirts -- as ruled in
> > > litigation some 10 years ago (the fact that both are linked to Bayard families
> > > was not relevant for the decision, though).
> >
> >   An interesting point and comparison, but not relevant to the original question
> > here Ed.
>
> Jeff:
>
> I will just comment on this item of your "reply" -- since the rest of your "reply" 
>is negated by extension.
>
> It is quite clear that you never registered a trademark, good ol' hand Jeff!  Let 
>alone study the subject..

  Quite the contrary.  However I did so through or General council and for the
11th time just recently as a matter of fact with respect to TLD's.  So,
unfortunately your assertion here is without merit, all be it puzzling.

>
>
> Trademarks are nothing outside of their registered categories and the issue in my 
>item #3 above is the thorniest one facing anyone registering a  trademark and 
>thinking 10 years in the future -- what could that TM apply to in 10 years, in my 
>business line?

  Good question, and likely defies a reasonably accurate answer, as 10 years
out is very difficult to predict especially in legal matters of this nature as we
have just seen from the USPTO.

> -- where will it create market value? -- where can it be legally bootleged, if I am 
>not careful? If I sell sport rifles, will I also later on decide to sell sport 
>apparel in general such as shirts, etc?  Anyone that has registered a trademarked was 
>faced with such questions -- and should thus know the consequences of ignoring it.

  Agreed completely and this was and is my point, but seem to be a departure
from your original point Ed.

>
>
> This item alone is the single most relevant item to the original question, and your 
>statement the single most common misconception in trademarks -- that a trademark 
>applies to any product, any service, equally.

  I did not and do not say that at all, and thus I see your confusion.  Nor
did I imply it either BTW.

>
>
> Try "FORD" -- the car company? the model agency? the consulting group? an acronym 
>elsewhere? All trademarks, all equally valid in the US, all in different categories.

  Not categories, but classes of Mark Ed.  And also agreed, which was my
point in part.  I was not in agreement with your assertion of Jurisdiction
NOT classification of Mark.

>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ed Gerck
>
>

Regards,


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