"Bret A. Fausett" wrote:
> Ed -- I think you may have misspoken in your reply to Joop. Joop is
> helping to organize an "Individual Domain Name Owners" constituency.
> Personally, I know very little about that effort. In your response,
> however, you mention the "dnso-ip" effort, which is different from what
> Joop is working on.
Brett:
Agreed and sorry for any undesired confusion -- but, actually, I did mean to
single out dnso-ip from those considerations since dnso-ip was the *only* DNSO
included in Joop's CC list, as you may have noted.
Personally, I have nothing against Joop, quite to the contrary ;-)
However, unless we are all careful how participants' roles are called (and, I
remember that was a concern in dnso-ip's position statements) we run the risk of
alienating those that "have been there, have seen this before" but are
nonetheless willing to keep trying in good faith.
Trust is earned, not given away. And, it is not there to be taken, either.
> As one of the dnso-ip participants (and the list administrator), I
> heartily agree with you that mere list membership is not endorsement of
> the work discussed on that list. I think list membership reflects the
> number of people who have had the opportunity to watch the effort and
> comment and nothing more -- not every list member will be happy with the
> result.
Yes -- this must be stressed, as it allows even people that do not agree with the
list's majority to participate, help, be convinced and/or convince. We need
diversity and we need to learn to cope with it -- not iron it out in the good name
of consensus.
> On the dnso-ip list, we've asked people to affirmatively state whether
> they support the draft dnso-ip application, and I expect that if the
> group decides to file an application with ICANN next week, we'll list the
> names of those who have agreed to endorse the proposal.
Yes. However, it is useful to call attention to the fact that the draft dnso-ip
application is a statement of *purpose* not of *results*. Which, IMO, is clear in
the draft irself and a good point for it.
Cheers,
Ed Gerck
