All,
Michael, I would not give Mr. Walsh's comments much mind given his
world renound disgusting behavior that we have all tolorated fo so long
and realize that his apparent mental illness in progressing with each
post that he spews forth of late.
As your orginization has every right and should continue to make it's
voice known we [INEGroup] and I welcome your orginizations thoughts...
William X. Walsh wrote:
> Your subject is offensive.
>
> It should read Michael Sondow's comments. The ICIIU is not a
> Congress, and indeed has no voice. To use an organizational name for
> the sole purpose of trying to give your comments more weight is no
> better than our favorite Kook.
>
> Consider doing the responsible thing and resubmitting these comments
> as those of an individual. You might get less opposition.
>
> On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:43:08 -0400, Michael Sondow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >Comments on the Recommendations of the Membership Advisory Committee
> >of 26 April 1999 (http://cyber.harvard.edu/rcs/alp-comment.htm)
> >
> >Principles of the At-large Membership
> >
> >2. At-large membership is open to both individuals and
> >organizations, however, no organization that has a right to
> >designate or otherwise directly vote for an SO Director may register
> >as an at-large Member. �Organization� shmean any institution
> >officially recognized as a legal persona under the laws of the
> >nation where it claims legal residence. Individuals who are members
> >of the SOs or their constituencies are welcome to join the
> >at-largemembership. The most feasible protection against capture by
> >interests that are not representative of the the user
> >community at large is to enroll as many Members as possible.
> >
> >Comment: Where does this leave the ICIIU? We are signing people up
> >for the Non-Commercial Domain Name Holders constituency of the DNSO,
> >since we believe that at least some Internet-related non-profit
> >organizations represent users and therefore should have a voice in
> >that constituency; but at the same time it would seem that our place
> >is in the At-Large membership, by this definition of it. How do we
> >resolve this problem? Should we drop out of the NCDNHC, and wait to
> >become part of the At-Large membership? Wouldn't it be a mistake to
> >leave the DNSO entirely in the hands of organizations, and
> >commercial ones at that? At the same time, isn't it wrong for a
> >strictly independent user-oriented entity like the ICIIU not to be
> >involved in the At-Large membership? How can we solve this?
> >
> >3. It is not recommended that membership fees be assessed at this
> >time. If membership fees should be assessed in the future, they
> >shall reflect the economic differences of the various geographic
> >regions.
> >
> >Comment: As in our commentary to the previously posted M.A.C.
> >recommendations, we believe it is a mistake not to charge membership
> >fees as this will make it virtually impossible to define the
> >membership or deal with it administratively, and we strongly feel
> >that an individual who does not make at least a token financial
> >commitment to the organization will not take membership responsibly.
> >
> >9. At-large voting shall be on the principle of
> >one-person-one-vote. An organization shall be limited to casting
> >one vote on behalf of the entire organization. Individuals who vote
> >for SO Directors in their capacity as representatives of SO-member
> >organizations shall also have a right to vote for at-large Directors
> >in their personal capacity as at-large Members.
> >
> >Comment: This is, in our opinion, an unworkable method of voting. It
> >will permit the election of At-Large directors who have won only a
> >very small percentage of the votes (a candidate could be elected
> >with, say, five votes if all others have only four or less, in a
> >membership of hundreds), and it paves the way for ballot-box
> >stuffing by large organizations or companies who send their members
> >or employees to the At-Large membership only for taking part in the
> >voting (which is also favored by the lack of membership dues).
> >Although these provisions of the M.A.C. may be motivated by popular
> >and democratic ideals, we believe they will in practice have the
> >opposite effect from the one they were designed to accomplish.
> >
> >============================================================
> >International Congress of Independent Internet Users (ICIIU)
> > http://www.iciiu.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >============================================================
>
> --
> William X. Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> General Manager, DSo Internet Services
>
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Regards,
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Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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