>Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 17:41:39 -0700
>To: Ed Gerck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From: Bill Lovell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Feist (was Re: [IFWP] Re: DOJ investigating NSI)
>
>At 05:13 PM 5/5/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>Carl Oppedahl wrote:
>>
>>> The parallel to the Whois database and COM zone file is quite clear.   You
>>> can go through a Whois listing, line by line, and nothing in it is original
>>> expression authored by NSI.
>>
>>This is a common misconception -- "how do you know it", is the question.
>>
>>If you got your entries by randomly trying all entries in the COM namespace,
>>fine. But, if you copied it all and it turns out that NSI had inserted ghost 
>>entries
>>of their own invention as markers, so that only they knew about them,
then you
>>have infringed on their copyright to *those* entries and by extension to the 
>>entire
>>table where they are. The same happens with savvy phone companies that now
>>include ghost entries in their directories -- if  they appear in someone 
>>else's listing,
>>bingo! ... since they could not have been possibly guessed or discovered. 
>>The same
>>reasoning goes for  mistakes -- since the probability of two companies 
>>making the
>>*same* mistakes in a database is very small.
>
>Nonsense.  The "ghost" entries theory works only if the underlying material
>without the ghost entries (e.g., a complex computer program such as an
>operating system) constituted copyrightable material.  The device works
>great for catching copiers, since the "access" part of the infringement case
>is thus shown.  However, phone book listings are not copyrightable.
>>
>>Likewise, if you print your version of the Bible, I don't believe that anyone
>>but Him could enforce copyrights -- but, if you just xerox a Bible's edition
>>from a publisher and sell it then probably not even Him will be willing to 
>save
>>you ;-)
>
>Nonsense.  You can get all of the "Great Books" such as all of Shakespeare
>off the net or at the book store, print or copy, and sell away, and there's 
>nothing anyone can do about it.  That, indeed, is the reason why the 
>Constitutional provision giving inventors and authors exclusive rights for 
>limited times exists: eventually, whatever was for that limited time under 
>such exclusive right falls into the public domain; you can copy and
distribute 
>all you want and there's no legal recourse against you for so doing. Public
>domain is public domain, and what a person may have used as the mechanical
>source of the material does not matter.
>
>And by the way, Xerox shall be after you for misuse of its
>trademark -- "xerox" is not a verb.  :-)
>
>Bill Lovell

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