Michael, el, and all -
> Esther Dyson a ecrit:
> >
> > It applies to all the constituencies, and concerns who may enter the room.
> > Then we hope the people in the room will self-organize and come up with
> > reasonable criteria for their group. but each constituency 'building'
> > effort must start with an open room.
>
> So there are no criteria for membership? That is the essence of what
> you are saying. The names you gave to the constituencies mean
> nothing. They are all the same, anyone can join them, regardless of
> their identity or standing.
>
> Well, we non-commercial domain name holders have not spent hundreds
> of hours oprganizing our constituency to have to usurped by others.
> We are going to fight for what is ours.
Where you all miss the point is that in ICANNic terminology,
'interest in discussing the formation of X' is not equivalent to
'discussing the formation of X' which again is not the same as
'forming X.' Thus, I advise you to bring to the open 'interest'
meeting a proposal to immediately adjourn to a closed 'discussion'
meeting -- where one should then move to adjourn again, to the
'formation' meeting. Clearly, these are only procedural steps, and
do not require actually moving to a different time and place -- but in
their absence, the effect of reserving the Kaminzimmer is simply to
*prevent these subsequent steps from occurring within the context
of an 'ICANN meeting.'
The same goes for the vocabulary of 'voting' and 'membership' btw --
obviously these have no meaning in the initial 'open' meeting.
Ya gotta learn the politics, m'boy, or you'll never get ahead!
kerry
