Only Esther could respond first to  Rick's writing:

> >I would like to understand what voting in the constituency
> > meeting means. It appears that anyone can go to a meeting
> > and participate in its organization.

thusly:
> That's really up to the constituencies themselves - as long as the voting
> rules pass muster: open, nondiscriminatory, broad participation, etc. 
> 

without explaining that of course there are no voting rules until 
organizational bylaws have been accepted by the membership. 
Since the contituencies have not convened, they have no 
members, therefore no rules, therefore there can be no voting in an 
"OPEN meeting to [discuss] the formation of each of the seven 
initial constituencies." (Molly Shaffer Van Houweling )

"Discussing the formation" therefore means, first of all, putting 
together the agenda: the nature of the organization, the structure of 
the bylaws, the rules of voting and then adopting that as the 
framework **by acclamation** -- that is, agree to *constitute* the 
nucleus of an organization. Those who dont so agree, of 
course, go off to start again, towards a different organization with a 
different structure or different procedural rules.  

So the upshot is, discuss what you like, organize what you like, 
but dont claim you've *voted* on anything until the little ducks are 
in a row -- otherwise ICANN will disqualify your application to be a 
'constituency' and you'll have to start over. 


===

-- and then to EL, 

> The rooms are open.  Then either the constituencies self-organize,
> and the Initial Board recognizes them, or certain constituencies
> will be missing in the initial DNSO. At that point, the
> constituencies can determine who qulaifies as a member, but those
> criteria need to be justifiable in light of the purpose/nature of
> the constituency.  

-- perhaps on the assumption that anyone plowing through the n-
tuple redundancy and spurious attributions and hairy red herrings 
that abound on this list will take her to mean that "discussion of 
formation" leading to "self-organization" by "pass-the-muster 
[please]" criteria must all take place in one f2f meeting on the 26th, 
and forget that it has been announced that no 'new' constituencies 
will be considered at Berlin by the [Interim] Board.

Of course, this kind of obfuscation is necessary; otherwise 
someone might realize that this board that was convened to 
discuss the formation of the Initial Board has been following 
somewhat different rules. 


kerry

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