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>Gee, that's magnaamous of you <grin>. I've been an ISOC member for
>years. I believe that Kevin is also, not to mention Karl. There are a
>few other ISOC members here also, whom I do not know. You must not
>mistake personal views with that published by the organization. I joined
>the ISOC so that I could support the IETF. I will continue to do so. It
>does NOT mean that I share all of their views. As a matter of fact, I
>have protested those views, more than once, both on the ISOC list and
>with the titular leadership. I'm just not all that public about it when
>I do.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>> William X. Walsh
>> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 11:30 PM
>>
>> If only those who aspire to the NCDNHC would be as open as the IDNO
>> proposes to be.
>>
>> Exclusions to a constituency should not be entered into lightly, but
>> after extensive discussions with those are are interested and involved
>> in the constituency. And then ONLY as necessary to maintain the
>> charter as to who the constituency was formed to represent.
>>
>> ISOC members who fit into the IDNO are, and of right should be,
>> welcomed as any other individual domain name holder would be.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:41:03 +1200, Joop Teernstra
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >That last sentence is in accordance with the principles of
>> our constituency.
>> >In other words: it's the owner that joins the constituency,
>> not necessarily
>> >the listed contact.
>> >You are under a misunderstanding, Kevin, if you think that
>> Companies can be
>> >members of this constituency.
>> >Please come up with better language for our charter to make
>> sure that there
>> >is no such misunderstanding.
>> >(Actually , I had been waiting for your input on this score)
>> >
>> >Now, with regards to ISOC leadership, there will be many who
>> will agree,
>> >but also many who will disagree. Healthy democracy.
>> >If you mean with "this whole process", the formation of the
>> Individual
>> >Domain name owners' constituency, then I'm sad to report
>> that Don Heath had
>> >plenty of opportunity to talk to me in Berlin, but chose not to.
>> >Even though you are an ISOC NY chapter director you have
>> been welcomed by
>> >myself and the first co-founders to join.
>> >We would appreciate that you would invite the many
>> individual DN owners
>> >that are ISOC members to consider signing up for this
>> constituency even
>> >though at the moment ISOC appears more interested to control the
>> >non-commercial DN holders constituency.
>> >
>> >Kent and Dave might call this "capture". I trust that ISOC
>> members who join
>> >up with us, will continue to behave as individuals.
>> >Ballotting is secret.
>> >They will have a voice just like other DN owners. As they deserve.
>> >--Joop Teernstra LL.M.--
>> >the Cyberspace Association,
>> >the constituency for Individual Domain Name Owners
>> >http://www.democracy.org.nz/idno/
>>
>>
>> --
>> William X. Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> General Manager, DSo Internet Services
>> Fax:(209) 671-7934
>>
>> The Law is not your mommy or daddy to go
>> crying to every time you have something
>> to whimper about.
>>
>
>
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