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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William X. Walsh)
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Subject: Re: [IFWP] Computer science or the "market", government or ICANN
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:13:03 GMT
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William X. Walsh) writes:
On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 00:02:07 -0400 (EDT), Ronda Hauben
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Ronda,
>
>>The Internet was not the "market" when it was born and it isn't
>>and won't be a "market now or in the future.
>
>>It is a communication medium.
>Yes it is, and the simple fact is that the people who use the internet
>are a "market."
No we are users!!!
That's what makes the Internet a participatory medium - the users
are part of the Internet, not some passive consumers who are
coach potatoes !
>>You wouldn't have a cooperative communication structure if=20
>>there were any such "market", you would have a monopoly of
>>some one company like Microsoft etc.
>No you wouldn't. That is called a "Monopoly."
It turns out that the need for globally unique IP numbers
are indeed a piece of the infrastructure of the Internet -
not some bait for someone's theories.
Whoever gets control of the IP numbers and the Domain Name
System and the root server system, etc. if they are
not a public and cooperative entity, will mean real problems
for the Internet and its users.
>Perhaps some education in ecomomics might help you understand this.
It would seem you need idea of the history and development of
the Internet to understand the Internet *not* some theories
that don't work outside of the Interent, and are certainly inappropriate
to the nature of a communications medium.
>>If you start with an apple, all the wishes in the world won't
>>make it into a pear.
>Over time, things evolve.
It still doesn't become a pear.
>And nothing you say can reverse it. Learn to live with it.
Reverse what?
The Internet is a communications medium. Users are users.
Who is trying to reverse what?
>Your rantings about trying to bring back the past just make you look
>foolish.
Interesting - to look at the reality is called "ranting" by you.
And meanwhile there is the mess that is ICANN and the behind the
scenes power plays and that is being covered up by this
talk of users as not being users but someone's bait.
But the problem won't go away despite all the wishful dreams
of "markets" and "money" and "get rich quick schemes".
We are in an age of software and an age of an Internet.
It's a new millennium but I realize there are folks think that
none of this is true.
It turns out that the history of the Internet is in fact the future.
It is the new.
That IPTO was a model for how to create new technology and new
computer science.
There may be those in the U.S. or elsewhere with these dreams
of "markets" and trying to push the Internet into the old
boxes and old forms of the past.
But it won't go.
The Internet is the new, and users connected to computers connected
to networks communicating with others around the world are the
new.
There are new ways of creating software, the linux way, and
there are new ways of creating and developing networks, the
open architecture way.
And none of that is the "market".
So those with dreams of "markets" will try to end the Internet
and make it into the old.
But that won't change the fact that we are in a new age and
that the new technology and computer science doesn't fit
in the old categories.
Ronda
