Ken and all,

  The problem here Ken old son, is that there has been
NO "Community COnsensus" on decisions that ICANN
has made and acted upon unilaterly....

Ken Stubbs wrote:

> FIRST... PLEASE LET ME APOLOGIZE FOR ALL CAPS... THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH MY
> E-MAIL CLIENT FORMATTING.
> NOW ON TO THE BODY ...
>
> TONY
>
> LET RE REFRESH YOUR MEMORY HERE AND GIVE YOU A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
>
> 1. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND  YOU THAT THE NSI CEO GABE BATTISTA TESTIFIED
> BEFORE
> HOUSE SCIENCE COMITTEE AND NSI WROTE A LETTER TO COMMERCE SUPPORTING THE
> CREATION OF ICANN AS A COMMUNITY CONSENSUS DEVELOPMENT VEHICLE
> 2. THE WHITE PAPER STATED THE OBVIOUS WHEN IT SAID THAT (SINCE IT
> ASSUMED THE END OF GOVERNMENT FUNDING)  "THE NEW CORPORATION COULD BE
> FUNDED BY DOMAIN NAME REGISTRIES, REGIONAL IP REGISTRIES, OR OTHER ENTITIES
> IDENTIFIED BY THE BOARD."   IF THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS TO TAKE OVER THE
> MANAGEMENT RESPONSIBILITIES IN THIS AREA FROM THE USG, THE PRIVATE SECTOR
> HAS TO FIND A WAY TO COVER THE COSTS OF THOSE ACTIVITIES.
> 3.I HAVE SEEN A CONSISTANT REFUSAL BY "KEY PARTIES" TO PARTICIPATE IN THE
> DEVELOPMENT OF CONSENSUS POLICIES OR TO ABIDE BY THEM.
> WHEN THE COMMUNITY IS, BECAUSE OF THAT REFUSAL, THEN FORCED TO COME UP WITH
> ANOTHER MECHANISM TO FUND WHAT MOST OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY WANT TO SEE
> HAPPEN -- THE DEVELOPMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF CONSENSUS POLICIES -- YOU
> AND THESE "KEY PARTIES" THEN ATTACK THAT EFFORT AS WELL, ASSERTING THAT
> ICANN IS SOME SORT OF REGULATOR IMPOSED ON THE COMMUNITY AND TO PAY FOR ITS
> ILLICIT ACTIVITIES IS TAXING --MEANING THAT IT IS FORCING PEOPLE TO PAY
> SOMETHING THEY DID NOT AGREE TO.
>
> 4.I MIGHT ALSO MENTION THAT .  ON JUNE 6,  1998, IN A SPEECH, (TAKEN FROM
> THE NSI SITE), DON TELAGE REFERRED POSITIVELY TO THE TRANSITION FROM
> GOVERNMENT FUNDING TO USER FEES.  ALSO IN NSI'S 2/26/99 COMMENTS TO ICANN ON
> THE REGISTRAR GUIDELINES, NSI CALLED FOR PAYMENTS FROM REGISTRARS
> "VOLUNTARILY NEGOTIATED" -- IT APPEARS THAT THE NUMBER OF REGISTRARS WILLING
> TO WORK WITH THAT SYSTEM  (I.E. 30-40 NOW SOON TO BE WELL OVER 50) WOULD
> INDICATE THAT THAT THEY MUST FEEL THIS IS NOT AN EXCESSIVE  BURDEN AND THAT
> THEY HAVE CONFIDENCE IN ICANN TO RESPONSIBLY MANAGE THE FINANCIAL ASPECTS OF
> THEIR END OF THE BUSINESS OR THEY WOULD NOT HAVE ELECTED TO GET INVOLVED.
>
> KEN STUBBS
> P.S. SOUNDS TO ME THAT THE REAL PROBLEM HERE IS NSI (HAVING THE LARGEST
> PIECE OR THE PIE AT THE MOMENT) IS CHOKING OF THE IDEA OF HAVING TO "PONY
> UP" THE MAJORITY OF THE
> CURRENT PROJECTED FEES ... ON TOP OF THAT THEY HAVE ADOPTED THE ATTITUDE
> THAT "SINCE WE ARE THE ONE'S PUTTING UP THE BIG BUCKS , WE WANT THE MAJOR
> SAY AS TO WHAT SHOULD BE DONE WITH THEM)  I SUPPOSE TAKING $5MILLION OUT OF
> MY BOTTOM LINE WOULD CAUSE ME TO CHOKE  TOO.. BUT THEN LOOK AT THE SIZE OF
> THE PIE THEY CURRENTLY HAVE  AMASSED AS A MONOPOLY  AND THE FACT THAT THEY
> ALSO HAVE THE REGISTRY TOO..
>
> (INTERPRETATION... STOCK PRICE TAKES A "MAJOR HIT" IF THEY HAVE TO START
> PAYING)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: A.M. Rutkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Ken Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 9:33 AM
> Subject: Re: Speculation (was Anti-cybersquatting Consumer Protection Act)
>
> >At 04:05 PM 7/1/99 , Ken Stubbs wrote:
> >>using a term like that is kinda like using emotionally loaded terms like
> >>$1.00 "internet tax" rather than a  "fee" charged to registrars
> >
> >Fees have a direct cost of service relationship
> >equally applied for the service performed.  For
> >example, Kinko's charges a fee for producing a
> >photocopy.
> >
> >In the instant case, we have a government created
> >corporation developing the budget for its bloated
> >bureaucracy and outside counsel that decided to
> >raise its revenue by a levy on everyone in the
> >COM, ORG, NET zones.  That's not a fee, it's an
> >unlawful tax levy to support a government created
> >corporation.
> >
> >
> >--tony
> >

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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