Dear Randy, and all,
her is an ascii version of the proposal we sent and which, in its short
version, has already been commented on by Prof. Kilnam Chon.
It will be posted in a Web page by tomorrow, most surely, and be made
easier to read at least that way.
Yours,
Alejandro Pisanty
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Dr. Alejandro Pisanty,
Director General de Servicios de Computo Academico
(Director, Computing Academic Services)
Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico (UNAM)
Ciudad Universitaria, 04510 Mexico City DF MEXICO
Tel. (+52-5) 622-8541, 622-8542; Fax 622-8540
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 23:20:02 -0600 (CST)
From: Pisanty Baruch Alejandro-FQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Pisanty Baruch Alejandro-FQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The undersigned, in representation of the Latin American Networks Forum (ENRED), the
Internet Society of Mexico, the Foundation Networks & Development (FUNREDES) of the
Dominican Republic and the Sustainable Development Network of Panama offer to the
consideration of the non-profit organizations that participate in the process of
creation of
the NCDNHC some recommendations for modification of the draft published in
http://www.ncdnhc.isoc.org.
The proposed modifications are sustained by:
- the reinforcement of the concept of regional diversity which has been timely
approved by
the ICANN,
- the conformance to the by-laws of the DNSO as for the integration to the NC of
three
persons from different regions in representation of each constituency,
- the interest in getting more transparent and accountable procedures within a
democratic
spirit,
- the improvement of the capacity of administration of the constituency,
- the enhancement of the commitment and responsibility of the organizations members
of
the board of the constituency.
PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS BY CHAPTER
I - None
II - None
We would like though to express our worry about the possibility of ambiguity and
misunderstanding resulting of the systematic use of the expression "non commercial"
although some context exists where "non profit" would better express the intended
meaning, as in "b) and which are incorporated as a non-commercial entity (in countries
that
have such a provision in their commercial code)" whereby the point is not about
"comercial
code" but about the laws for non profit associations.
III - ORGANIZATIONAL PRINCIPLES -
We recommend the total suppression of this chapter.
IV
A. VOTING PRINCIPLES.
Each organization member of the NCDNHC will have a single vote. The mechanisms of
voting must assure the regional plurality according to the principle of geographical
diversity as defined by ICANN. The vote will be public since candidates are elected
in
representation of organizations. The detailled result of the vote will be made public
in the
web site of the NCDNHC.
B. NCDNHC COUNCIL
Each two years the organizations members will vote to designate a Board formed by 5
principal members and 5 substitutes which will last for a period of two years. Will be
designated as principals the 5 candidates receiving, per region, the highest number of
votes.
Will be designated as substitutes the 5 candidates receiving, per region, the highest
number
of votes right after the principals. One single organization can only have one
candidate,
therefore the substitutes will be from a different organization than the principals.
The Board
will start its function right after the publication of the results of the vote which
have to
happen less than 48 hours after the fixed end of the voting procedure. If for some
reason
candidates of a region leave their positions vacant it will not be filled by persons
from
another region.
C. Membership required to run
In order to run for membership it is required to be member of one of the
organizations
members of the NCDNHC and to have the formal support of this organization. This
support
will be communicated transparently to the other members of the NCDNHC and will be
published, together with a copy of the formal supporting letter, in the web site of
the
NCDNHC.
D. NC REPRESENTATIVES
Within the five first day of taking place, the Board will nominate three members as
representatives to the NC. The nomination will be made by a majority of four of the
members. Three designated persons and their substitutes will act as representatives
of the
NCDNHC in the NC for the period of two years. The method of appointment of the Board
of the NCDNHC assures that the three representatives of the NCDNHC to the NC belongs
to different regions, in agreement with the by-laws of the DNSO.
E. Substitution of the members of the advice and / or representatives to the NC
Because the members of the NCDNHC are organizations and non physical persons, in case
of:
- withdrawing of a person member of the Council on behalf an organization,
or
- withdrawing an organization its formal support to a person member of the Council on
behalf this organization,
this person stops to belong to the Board and this organization will be allowed to
designate
another person. The person who surrogates the one that leave the position, will
remain in
the position for the whole mandate of the Board.
F. First vote.
The first paragraph would be same.
Because the elections will be based on the principle of geographical diversity, as it
is
reflected in ICANN by-laws, the candidates will indicate to what region belongs the
organization they represent.
Third same paragraph.
The Voting was carried out between August 8th and 9th and the results will be
published in
the 48 following hours according to that expressed in III.B
V Sign up for Membership and......
None.
FINAL STATEMENT
This document is a contribution from the signing organizations to the work already
carried
out by other people, among them the authors of the 2 previous documents.
It only intends to be another contribution towards the final document. Therefore it
admits
modifications and suggestions, except in relation with the issue we consider of
paramount
principle: the respect to criteria of geographical diversity in the different
organisms and
levels of ICANN, issue which has mobilized our region the last year and for which we
are
eager to preserve the obtained progress.
We do invite people from other regions to support this fundamental principle, join the
discussion and express their support.
We also propose the following steps for the draft process:
- that the applications of membership be continued as of today,
- that the NC be informed in writing before the 12th on the different existing
proposals (we
suggest that this be achieved by the persons of NCDNHC who participate, as observers,
to
the NC),
- that discussion be maintained up to July 25th .
If the situation of lack of consensus occurs we should then proceed to have the member
organizations vote based on rules that we have to agree by consensus.
Signed:
Raul Echeberria, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], INIA, Uruguay
Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sustainable Development Network
Programme, Panama
Daniel Pimienta, [EMAIL PROTECTED], FUNREDES, Republica Dominicana
Alejandro Pisanty, [EMAIL PROTECTED], President, ISOC Mexico
Los abajo firmantes, en representaci�n del Foro Latinoamericano de Redes (ENRED), la
Sociedad Internet de M�xico, la Fundaci�n Redes y Desarrollo (FUNREDES) de la
Rep�blica Dominicana y la Red de Desarrollo Sostenible de Panam� sometemos a la
consideraci�n de las organizaciones sin fines de lucro que participan en el proceso de
creaci�n de la NCDNHC algunas propuestas de modificaciones al borrador publicado en
http://www.ncdnhc.isoc.org.
Las modificaciones propuestas se sustentan en:
- el fortalecimiento del concepto de diversidad regional, aprobado oportunamente por
el
ICANN,
- el cumplimiento de los estatutos del DNSO, en cuanto a la integraci�n al "Name
Council"
(NC) de tres personas de distintas regiones en representaci�n de cada "constituency",
- la b�squeda de mayor transparencia y democracia en los procedimientos,
- la mejora de la capacidad de gesti�n de la "constituency",
- el mejor compromiso y la mas grande responsabilidad de las organizaciones miembros
en
la direcci�n de la "constituency".
Las modificaciones propuestas est�n presentadas por capitulo:
I - Ninguna
II - Ninguna
Queremos solamente se�alar que puede existe la posibilidad de ambig�edad y
malentendido por el uso sistem�tico de la expresi�n "no comercial" cuando aparece
contextos donde ser�a mas oportuno decir "sin fines de lucro" como en "b) and which
are
incorporated as a non-commercial entity (in countries that have such a provision in
their
commercial code)" donde no se trata de "comercial code" pero de las leyes de las
asociaciones sin fines de lucro.
III - Organizational Principles -
Sugerimos la supresi�n total de este capitulo.
IV -
A. Voting principles.
Cada organizaci�n miembro del NCDNHC tendr� un solo voto. Los mecanismos de
votaci�n aseguraran la pluralidad regional de acuerdo al criterio de diversidad
geogr�fica
definido por el ICANN. El voto ser� p�blico ya que quienes votan son personas en
representaci�n de organizaciones. El resultado detallado de la votaci�n ser� hecho
p�blico
en el web del NCDNHC.
B. NCDNHC council
Cada dos a�os y por el periodo de dos a�os, las organizaciones miembros votar�n para
designar un consejo formado por 5 miembros titulares y 5 suplentes. Ser�n designados
como titulares los 5 candidatos mas votados pertenecientes a 5 distintas regiones, y
los
siguientes 5 mas votados pertenecientes a cada una de las 5 regiones definidas ser�n
sus
respectivos suplentes. Una organizaci�n puede solamente ofrecer un candidato, por lo
tanto
los suplentes pertenecen a una organizaci�n distinta de los titulares. El consejo
asumir� sus
funciones inmediatamente despu�s de la publicaci�n de los resultados, los cuales
deber�n
ser hechos p�blicos en un plazo menor a 48 horas de finalizada la votaci�n. Si por
alguna
raz�n no existieran candidatos de una regi�n, sus cargos quedaran vacantes no pudiendo
ser
ocupados por personas de otra regi�n.
C. Membership required to run
Para participar de las elecciones como candidato es necesario ser miembro de una de
las
organizaciones miembros del NCDNHC y tener el apoyo formal de esta organizaci�n. Este
apoyo deber� ser comunicado p�blicamente a los dem�s miembros del NCDNHC y ser�
publicado, con copia de la carta que lo expresa formalmente, en el sitio web del
NCDNHC.
D. NC representatives
El consejo, deber� en los primeros 5 d�as de haber sido nombrado, nominar a tres de
sus
miembros como representantes al NC. La nominaci�n deber� ser hecha por una mayor�a de
4 de los miembros. Las tres personas designadas y sus suplentes actuaran como
representantes del NCDNHC en el NC por el periodo de dos a�os. El m�todo de
designaci�n del consejo del NCDNHC asegura que los tres representantes del NCDNHC al
NC pertenecen a distintas regiones, en conformidad con los estatutos del DNSO.
E. Sustituci�n de los miembros del consejo y/o representantes al NC
Debido a que los miembros del NCDNHC son organizaciones, en caso de:
- renuncia de un miembro del Consejo,
o
- retiro de apoyo formal de la organizaci�n a la que pertenece un miembro,
esta organizaci�n podr� designar a otra persona en su lugar. La persona que subrogue a
la
que dejo su cargo, har� ejercicio del cargo hasta la finalizaci�n del periodo para el
que
hab�a sido elegido la persona saliente.
F. First vote.
El primer p�rrafo quedar�a igual.
Debido a que las elecciones estar�n basadas en el principio de diversidad geogr�fica
consagrado por ICANN, el candidato deber� indicar a que regi�n pertenece el organismo
que representa.
Tercer p�rrafo igual.
La votaci�n se llevar� a cabo entre el 8 y el 9 de agosto y los resultados ser�n
publicados en
las 48 horas siguientes de acuerdo a lo expresado en III.B
V Sign up for Membership and ...
Ninguna modificaci�n.
NOTAS FINALES -
Este documento es un aporte de las organizaciones firmantes al trabajo ya realizado
por
otras personas entre las que destacamos a los redactores de los 2 documentos
anteriores.
Intenta ser solamente una aproximaci�n mas al resultado final de este trabajo. Por lo
tanto
admite modificaciones y sugerencias, salvo en el tema que consideramos de principios
que
es de respetar los criterios de diversidad geogr�fica en los distintos organismos y
niveles de
ICANN, principio que ha movilizado nuestra regi�n el ultimo a�o y por lo cual no
queremos que se pierda los avances logrados.
Invitamos a personas de otras regiones a que apoyen este principio fundamental, se
integren
a la discusi�n y expresen su apoyo a nuestra posici�n.
Proponemos tambi�n como m�todo de trabajo:
- que se contin�e con las aplicaciones de membresia tal cual como se esta haciendo,
- que se informe por escrito al NC antes del 12 sobre las distintas propuestas
existentes
(sugerimos que esta tarea sea llevada a cabo por las personas que han estado
participando
como observadores en el NC por parte del NCDNHC),
- que se discuta hasta el 25 de julio.
En caso de no haber consenso, se proceda a votar por parte de las organizaciones
miembros
en base a una modalidad que debemos acordar de manera consensual.
Firman:
Raul Echeberria, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], INIA, Uruguay
Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sustainable Development Network
Programme, Panama (Programa Red de Desarrollo Sustentable, Panam�)
Daniel Pimienta, [EMAIL PROTECTED], FUNREDES, Republica Dominicana
Alejandro Pisanty, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Presidente, ISOC M�xico
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Dr. Alejandro Pisanty,
Director General de Servicios de Computo Academico
(Director, Computing Academic Services)
Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico (UNAM)
Ciudad Universitaria, 04510 Mexico City DF MEXICO
Tel. (+52-5) 622-8541, 622-8542; Fax 622-8540
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
The undersigned, in representation of the Latin American Networks Forum (ENRED), the
Internet Society of Mexico, the Foundation Networks & Development (FUNREDES) of the
Dominican Republic and the Sustainable Development Network of Panama offer to the
consideration of the non-profit organizations that participate in the process of
creation of
the NCDNHC some recommendations for modification of the draft published in
http://www.ncdnhc.isoc.org.
The proposed modifications are sustained by:
- the reinforcement of the concept of regional diversity which has been timely
approved by
the ICANN,
- the conformance to the by-laws of the DNSO as for the integration to the NC of
three
persons from different regions in representation of each constituency,
- the interest in getting more transparent and accountable procedures within a
democratic
spirit,
- the improvement of the capacity of administration of the constituency,
- the enhancement of the commitment and responsibility of the organizations members
of
the board of the constituency.
PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS BY CHAPTER
I - None
II - None
We would like though to express our worry about the possibility of ambiguity and
misunderstanding resulting of the systematic use of the expression "non commercial"
although some context exists where "non profit" would better express the intended
meaning, as in "b) and which are incorporated as a non-commercial entity (in countries
that
have such a provision in their commercial code)" whereby the point is not about
"comercial
code" but about the laws for non profit associations.
III - ORGANIZATIONAL PRINCIPLES -
We recommend the total suppression of this chapter.
IV
A. VOTING PRINCIPLES.
Each organization member of the NCDNHC will have a single vote. The mechanisms of
voting must assure the regional plurality according to the principle of geographical
diversity as defined by ICANN. The vote will be public since candidates are elected
in
representation of organizations. The detailled result of the vote will be made public
in the
web site of the NCDNHC.
B. NCDNHC COUNCIL
Each two years the organizations members will vote to designate a Board formed by 5
principal members and 5 substitutes which will last for a period of two years. Will be
designated as principals the 5 candidates receiving, per region, the highest number of
votes.
Will be designated as substitutes the 5 candidates receiving, per region, the highest
number
of votes right after the principals. One single organization can only have one
candidate,
therefore the substitutes will be from a different organization than the principals.
The Board
will start its function right after the publication of the results of the vote which
have to
happen less than 48 hours after the fixed end of the voting procedure. If for some
reason
candidates of a region leave their positions vacant it will not be filled by persons
from
another region.
C. Membership required to run
In order to run for membership it is required to be member of one of the
organizations
members of the NCDNHC and to have the formal support of this organization. This
support
will be communicated transparently to the other members of the NCDNHC and will be
published, together with a copy of the formal supporting letter, in the web site of
the
NCDNHC.
D. NC REPRESENTATIVES
Within the five first day of taking place, the Board will nominate three members as
representatives to the NC. The nomination will be made by a majority of four of the
members. Three designated persons and their substitutes will act as representatives
of the
NCDNHC in the NC for the period of two years. The method of appointment of the Board
of the NCDNHC assures that the three representatives of the NCDNHC to the NC belongs
to different regions, in agreement with the by-laws of the DNSO.
E. Substitution of the members of the advice and / or representatives to the NC
Because the members of the NCDNHC are organizations and non physical persons, in case
of:
- withdrawing of a person member of the Council on behalf an organization,
or
- withdrawing an organization its formal support to a person member of the Council on
behalf this organization,
this person stops to belong to the Board and this organization will be allowed to
designate
another person. The person who surrogates the one that leave the position, will
remain in
the position for the whole mandate of the Board.
F. First vote.
The first paragraph would be same.
Because the elections will be based on the principle of geographical diversity, as it
is
reflected in ICANN by-laws, the candidates will indicate to what region belongs the
organization they represent.
Third same paragraph.
The Voting was carried out between August 8th and 9th and the results will be
published in
the 48 following hours according to that expressed in III.B
V Sign up for Membership and......
None.
FINAL STATEMENT
This document is a contribution from the signing organizations to the work already
carried
out by other people, among them the authors of the 2 previous documents.
It only intends to be another contribution towards the final document. Therefore it
admits
modifications and suggestions, except in relation with the issue we consider of
paramount
principle: the respect to criteria of geographical diversity in the different
organisms and
levels of ICANN, issue which has mobilized our region the last year and for which we
are
eager to preserve the obtained progress.
We do invite people from other regions to support this fundamental principle, join the
discussion and express their support.
We also propose the following steps for the draft process:
- that the applications of membership be continued as of today,
- that the NC be informed in writing before the 12th on the different existing
proposals (we
suggest that this be achieved by the persons of NCDNHC who participate, as observers,
to
the NC),
- that discussion be maintained up to July 25th .
If the situation of lack of consensus occurs we should then proceed to have the member
organizations vote based on rules that we have to agree by consensus.
Signed:
Raul Echeberria, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], INIA, Uruguay
Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sustainable Development Network
Programme, Panama
Daniel Pimienta, [EMAIL PROTECTED], FUNREDES, Republica Dominicana
Alejandro Pisanty, [EMAIL PROTECTED], President, ISOC Mexico
Los abajo firmantes, en representaci�n del Foro Latinoamericano de Redes (ENRED), la
Sociedad Internet de M�xico, la Fundaci�n Redes y Desarrollo (FUNREDES) de la
Rep�blica Dominicana y la Red de Desarrollo Sostenible de Panam� sometemos a la
consideraci�n de las organizaciones sin fines de lucro que participan en el proceso de
creaci�n de la NCDNHC algunas propuestas de modificaciones al borrador publicado en
http://www.ncdnhc.isoc.org.
Las modificaciones propuestas se sustentan en:
- el fortalecimiento del concepto de diversidad regional, aprobado oportunamente por
el
ICANN,
- el cumplimiento de los estatutos del DNSO, en cuanto a la integraci�n al "Name
Council"
(NC) de tres personas de distintas regiones en representaci�n de cada "constituency",
- la b�squeda de mayor transparencia y democracia en los procedimientos,
- la mejora de la capacidad de gesti�n de la "constituency",
- el mejor compromiso y la mas grande responsabilidad de las organizaciones miembros
en
la direcci�n de la "constituency".
Las modificaciones propuestas est�n presentadas por capitulo:
I - Ninguna
II - Ninguna
Queremos solamente se�alar que puede existe la posibilidad de ambig�edad y
malentendido por el uso sistem�tico de la expresi�n "no comercial" cuando aparece
contextos donde ser�a mas oportuno decir "sin fines de lucro" como en "b) and which
are
incorporated as a non-commercial entity (in countries that have such a provision in
their
commercial code)" donde no se trata de "comercial code" pero de las leyes de las
asociaciones sin fines de lucro.
III - Organizational Principles -
Sugerimos la supresi�n total de este capitulo.
IV -
A. Voting principles.
Cada organizaci�n miembro del NCDNHC tendr� un solo voto. Los mecanismos de
votaci�n aseguraran la pluralidad regional de acuerdo al criterio de diversidad
geogr�fica
definido por el ICANN. El voto ser� p�blico ya que quienes votan son personas en
representaci�n de organizaciones. El resultado detallado de la votaci�n ser� hecho
p�blico
en el web del NCDNHC.
B. NCDNHC council
Cada dos a�os y por el periodo de dos a�os, las organizaciones miembros votar�n para
designar un consejo formado por 5 miembros titulares y 5 suplentes. Ser�n designados
como titulares los 5 candidatos mas votados pertenecientes a 5 distintas regiones, y
los
siguientes 5 mas votados pertenecientes a cada una de las 5 regiones definidas ser�n
sus
respectivos suplentes. Una organizaci�n puede solamente ofrecer un candidato, por lo
tanto
los suplentes pertenecen a una organizaci�n distinta de los titulares. El consejo
asumir� sus
funciones inmediatamente despu�s de la publicaci�n de los resultados, los cuales
deber�n
ser hechos p�blicos en un plazo menor a 48 horas de finalizada la votaci�n. Si por
alguna
raz�n no existieran candidatos de una regi�n, sus cargos quedaran vacantes no pudiendo
ser
ocupados por personas de otra regi�n.
C. Membership required to run
Para participar de las elecciones como candidato es necesario ser miembro de una de
las
organizaciones miembros del NCDNHC y tener el apoyo formal de esta organizaci�n. Este
apoyo deber� ser comunicado p�blicamente a los dem�s miembros del NCDNHC y ser�
publicado, con copia de la carta que lo expresa formalmente, en el sitio web del
NCDNHC.
D. NC representatives
El consejo, deber� en los primeros 5 d�as de haber sido nombrado, nominar a tres de
sus
miembros como representantes al NC. La nominaci�n deber� ser hecha por una mayor�a de
4 de los miembros. Las tres personas designadas y sus suplentes actuaran como
representantes del NCDNHC en el NC por el periodo de dos a�os. El m�todo de
designaci�n del consejo del NCDNHC asegura que los tres representantes del NCDNHC al
NC pertenecen a distintas regiones, en conformidad con los estatutos del DNSO.
E. Sustituci�n de los miembros del consejo y/o representantes al NC
Debido a que los miembros del NCDNHC son organizaciones, en caso de:
- renuncia de un miembro del Consejo,
o
- retiro de apoyo formal de la organizaci�n a la que pertenece un miembro,
esta organizaci�n podr� designar a otra persona en su lugar. La persona que subrogue a
la
que dejo su cargo, har� ejercicio del cargo hasta la finalizaci�n del periodo para el
que
hab�a sido elegido la persona saliente.
F. First vote.
El primer p�rrafo quedar�a igual.
Debido a que las elecciones estar�n basadas en el principio de diversidad geogr�fica
consagrado por ICANN, el candidato deber� indicar a que regi�n pertenece el organismo
que representa.
Tercer p�rrafo igual.
La votaci�n se llevar� a cabo entre el 8 y el 9 de agosto y los resultados ser�n
publicados en
las 48 horas siguientes de acuerdo a lo expresado en III.B
V Sign up for Membership and ...
Ninguna modificaci�n.
NOTAS FINALES -
Este documento es un aporte de las organizaciones firmantes al trabajo ya realizado
por
otras personas entre las que destacamos a los redactores de los 2 documentos
anteriores.
Intenta ser solamente una aproximaci�n mas al resultado final de este trabajo. Por lo
tanto
admite modificaciones y sugerencias, salvo en el tema que consideramos de principios
que
es de respetar los criterios de diversidad geogr�fica en los distintos organismos y
niveles de
ICANN, principio que ha movilizado nuestra regi�n el ultimo a�o y por lo cual no
queremos que se pierda los avances logrados.
Invitamos a personas de otras regiones a que apoyen este principio fundamental, se
integren
a la discusi�n y expresen su apoyo a nuestra posici�n.
Proponemos tambi�n como m�todo de trabajo:
- que se contin�e con las aplicaciones de membresia tal cual como se esta haciendo,
- que se informe por escrito al NC antes del 12 sobre las distintas propuestas
existentes
(sugerimos que esta tarea sea llevada a cabo por las personas que han estado
participando
como observadores en el NC por parte del NCDNHC),
- que se discuta hasta el 25 de julio.
En caso de no haber consenso, se proceda a votar por parte de las organizaciones
miembros
en base a una modalidad que debemos acordar de manera consensual.
Firman:
Raul Echeberria, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], INIA, Uruguay
Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sustainable Development Network
Programme, Panama (Programa Red de Desarrollo Sustentable, Panam�)
Daniel Pimienta, [EMAIL PROTECTED], FUNREDES, Republica Dominicana
Alejandro Pisanty, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Presidente, ISOC M�xico
