Susan and all,

  Well with one minor adjustment, this might be ok.  That adjustment being
the following:

This document represents a snapshot of the policies and procedures it
   covers as of its date of publication.  These policies and procedures
   are subject to change and such change takes effect upon their formal
   approval by vote of all the participating of all IETF members or
participants...



Susan R. Harris wrote:

> Greetings - how does this new version look to everyone?  There are two
> changes:
>
>   - Revised 2nd paragraph in the Abstract
>   - New statement towards the middle that says "some conference
>     announcements are OK"
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                       IETF Discussion List Charter
>                   <draft-ietf-poisson-listaup-01.txt>
>
> <standard language snipped>
>
> Abstract
>
>    This memo outlines a charter for the IETF discussion mailing list.
>
>    This document represents a snapshot of the policies and procedures it
>    covers as of its date of publication.  These policies and procedures
>    are subject to change and such change takes effect upon their formal
>    approval by the IESG and, if necessary. their acceptance by the ISOC
>    Board of Trustees.
>
> 1.  Charter for the IETF Discussion List
>
>    The IETF discussion list serves two purposes. It furthers the
>    development and specification of Internet technology through
>    discussion of technical issues. It also hosts discussions of IETF
>    direction, policy, meetings, and procedures.
>
>    Anyone may subscribe to the IETF discussion list, but a subscription
>    is not required for membership or participation in the IETF.
>
>    As this is the most general IETF mailing list, considerable latitude
>    is allowed.  Advertising, whether to solicit business or promote
>    employment opportunities, falls well outside the range of acceptable
>    topics, as do discussions of a personal nature.
>
>    This list is meant for initial discussion only.  Discussions that
>    fall within the area of any working group or well established list
>    should be moved to such more specific forum as soon as this is
>    pointed out, unless the issue is one for which the working group
>    needs wider input or direction.
>
>    In addition to the topics noted above, appropriate postings include:
>
>      - Last Call discussions of proposed protocol actions
>      - Discussion of technical issues that are candidates for IETF work,
>        but do not yet have an appropriate e-mail venue
>      - Discussion of IETF administrative policies
>      - Questions and clarifications concerning IETF meetings
>      - Announcements of IP-related technology, research, or
>        policy-oriented conferences.
>
>    Inappropriate postings include:
>
>      - Unsolicited bulk e-mail
>      - Discussion of subjects unrelated to IETF policy, meetings,
>        activities, or technical concerns
>      - Unprofessional commentary, regardless of the general subject.
>
>    The IETF Chair, the IETF Executive Director, or a sergeant-at-arms
>    appointed by the Chair is empowered to restrict posting by a person
>    or of a thread as they deem appropriate to limit abuse. Complaints
>    regarding their decisions should be referred to the IAB.
>
> Acknowledgements
>
>    Comments by Donald E. Eastlake 3rd and other members of the IETF
>    POISSON working group are gratefully acknowledged.
>
> Author's Address
>
>    Susan R. Harris
>    Merit Network, Inc.
>    4251 Plymouth Rd., Suite C
>    Ann Arbor, MI 48105-2785
>    Phone: (734) 936-2100
>    Fax:   (734) 647-3185

Regards,

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