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                            NCDNHC admin meeting
                           99.08.23 14:30 - 18:30

introductions as many of us had not previously met:
    Kilnam Chon
    Randy Bush
    Norber Klein
    Vany Martinez
    Raul Echeberria
    Nii Quaynor
    YJ Park
    Kathryn Kleiman

guest:
    Christopher Roosa
    Theresa Amadto

election:
  o charter posted, objections were
    - bill semich, wanted to remove exclusivity clause
    - jeff williams, wanted large orgs to have only one vote
  o nominations
    - went well
    - five nominated
    - while it was hurried, it is good that the formal process was made
      and followed
    - kleiman, echeberria, park, and vendrome were all nominated and
      seconded properly
    - jeff graber was not seconded so is not a valid candidate, but we
      allowed him on the ballot refer to ncdnhc
    - even if graber had been properly nominated
  o voting
    - finished 22:00gmt last night
    - 38 of 56 organizations voted
    - yj, kathry, and raul are nc members
    - dany is admin council member
    - african postion is not yet filled.  suggest that the newly elected
      admin committee of four suggest the fifth and the ncdnhc as a whole
      confirm by consensus, open if by email or by tuesday meeting
    - can a member who can not vote, e.g. by exclusion clause, be elected?

at 15:25, the meeting was then turned over to the newly elected advisory
committee, yj park, k kleiman, r echeverria.

norbert klein was selected as the chair for the rest of ac meeting day.

member organization list report by yj park.  ac agreed to ask yj park to
coninue to maintain the membership list and to refer this to the whole group
for confirmation on tuesday.

need to keep track of which members are voting and which are not.  this
raises the question of whether some votes should not have been cast,
e.g. bill semich who, by his own statements, does not meet the voting
criteria in the charter.

vany martinez, as she was running the election, will report the results.

discussion of how to form the charter committee.  structure considered and
will be passed to whole group tuesday.

is there a need for a secretariat?  the tasks might be
  o meeting arrangements
  o web site
  o mailing list
  o archives
suggest that meeting arrangements are urgent.  others can take a month or
two.

it has been suggested that the other constituencies are having elections
before november, so we should as well.  this would be premature as we need
to work out a new charter first.

tuesday's meetings will be in the same place, 2001.  will be able to fit
fifty people, which would have been big enough for the berlin meeting.

reports of wgs:
  o wg-a process was closed and our members were not allowed to be in
    some sub-groups despite repeated requests.  final reports seemed to
    have nothing to do with consensus but the chair's position, especially
    sub-group a
  o wg-b - famous marks - did nothing for a long time, and then published
    a list of sub-questions which seemed to assume there would be a famous
    marks policy with no discussion thereof.  there may be an informal
    meeting in santiago, but we are not sure it will be announced to the
    wg's members
  o wg-c - new gtlds - did not reach consensus, but the process seemed
    fair.  maher and mueller from this constituency are prominent players in
    this wg
  o wg-d - wg organization and business plan - chaos of the crazies and some
    well-meaning people.  absolutely no conclusions yet.
  o wg-e - global outreach - there has been a draft of a wg-e charter, no
    major objections, but more progress needs to be made.  may have lunch on
    wednesday.

details of tuesday agenda and time allocations were worked out.  norbert
klein will chair.

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new specific agenda items for tuesday:
  o elections issues
    - should jeff graber's self-nomination with no second be invalidated ex
      post facto?
    - how do we get an african on the ac now?
  o confirm yj park as membership secretary
  o should semich's vote be nullified as he should be a non-voting member?
  o ac has a proposal for what the role of the ac is until it is properly
    formalized in the charter
  o we need to form comittee to draft next generation charter.  this is
    probably a semi-permanent committee.
    - can we elect someone who is a member but non-voting?
    - how to maintain membership?
    - more detail on membership criteria and decisions?
    - structure
      . two co-chairs, one from ac and one not
      . three more members from other regions
      . a few drafters selected by the above members
      . form within one month
  o confirm that meeting secretary be immediately appointed, and that it be
    yj park
  o propose that other secretariat functions will be organized in the next
    month or two
  o review the ncdnhc's consensus response to the wipo issues

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these informal minutes were done by randy bush

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