Brian and all,
Indeed I believe you to be correct here Biran. And a sad state
of affairs it is as well. Surely we can do better than this.
Brian C. Hollingsworth wrote:
> Mr. Baptista and Everyone,
>
> It seem very odd that some of Mr. Shaw's rather dubious reputation could
> have ever found himself on the GAC as has I believe been pointed out
> on several occasions. Whatever possessed the NTIA or the ICANN
> Board to allow such a person to be on the GAC is beyond my ability
> to comprehend. However we have other similar examples in recent
> years with respect to the Olympic Committee in one, Kurt Waldhime
> for instance.... It is interesting how soon people forget the lessons of
> history isn't it?
>
> J. Baptista wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Kent Crispin wrote:
> >
> > > Santiago meeting; how to deal with the press, and a bunch of other
> > > stuff.
> > >
> > > http://wxw.dso.net/ca-steering, on the other hand, documents a major
> > > rift.
> >
> > Interesting stuff. I noticed I had alot to do with the rift. The
> > committee members keep insisting I don't exist and that no one takes me
> > seriously, yet they spent enough time writing about me ;-)
> >
> > Most entertaining.
> >
> > Oh well, the only important thing here is that you can't hold the idno up
> > to account. It's still a developing organization. The membership numbers
> > have little significance in the real world. I've keep telling them to
> > increase the numbers. If the IDNO could set aside it's personal
> > prejudices, which I have seen as being anything from rants and defamatory
> > remarks against members .. to calling women dogs - don't ask - I had a
> > hard time with it myself.
> >
> > But as I said, if it could set aside the garbage and concentrate on some
> > number crunching and get the membership numbers up, I feel confident the
> > IDNO can make a difference to ICANN and the DNSO.
> >
> > A good example was my privacy was violated by one of the committee
> > members. Instead of dealing with it, the committe member defends himself
> > by saying my actions are simular to the actions we have taken agains
> > robert shaw, which is completely out to lunch - which see ..
> >
> > http://wxw.dso.net/ca-steering/msg00100.html
> >
> > in which good ol William Walsh said ..
> >
> > "He will raise a stink, yes, somewhat similar to his little game with
> > Bob Shaw, but we all know no on took that seriously, and no one would take
> > him seriously on this either."
> >
> > Bob Shaw is a rare bar fly in the wind, who has called us US Spy's.
> > That's very different from violating our privacy.
> >
> > Because of the IDNO problems, I want to ensure the DNSO understands we do
> > not support the IDNO's membership at this time. The IDNO needs time to
> > grow and establish itself. Unlike ICANN it should refrain from jumping
> > into the fire until it's ready to take the heat.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Joe Baptista
> >
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> Regretfully,
>
> --
> Brian C. Hollingsworth
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> Communications Affairs and Policy
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