I've known Jim Mercer (reptiles.org) very well for a long time. 
There's a bit of history there. I'd be fun to put them together
in a public debate. I think highly of both of them.

Everybody is somebody elses loon.


At 01:22 PM 11/3/99 -0800, you wrote:
>
>>From NANOG today......
>
>-----FW: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>-----
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>Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:19:41 -0500
>Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From: Jim Mercer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: possible scam?
>
>
>
>the following two messages were recieved by me (and more likely many others)
>
>the author, Joe Baptista, is a known loon in the Toronto area.
>
>i'm not sure if he has reformed or if this is some scam he is running.
>
>Message #1
>----- Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----
>Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 05:23:10 -0500
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: hello hostmaster for SOA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>-
>
>Hello:
>
>--
>
>Hello:
>
>   *******************************************************************
>   * ATTENTION - Our SMTP (MailServers) are being subjected to a DOS *
>   * (Denial of Service) Attack.
>   *                                                                 *
>   * BECAUSE OF THIS ATTACK - you may receive two copies of this     *
>   * this email.                                                     *
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>
>I am a domain administrator with Planet Communications & Computing 
>Facility.  We are a private network research facility.  I am contacting 
>you with respect to the BIND 1999 Survey of Internet hosts and ICANN - 
>the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers.
>
>We conduct and maintain the BIND (Berkley Internet Name Daemon) survey 
>databases.  Over the years we have used the BIND surveys to assist the 
>United States Government and the Department of Defense in closing security 
>holes in the domain name system infrastructure.
>
>This year we have received financial assistance which has allowed us to 
>conduct an extensive enumeration of internet domain name servers.  You 
>are receiving this message because servers where you are listed as the 
>SOA (source of authority) have been included in the most recent BIND 
>data.
>
>We would like to invite you to pickup a report from us which details all 
>information available on your servers as reported in the public dns 
>system.  The report includes a number of tests results from queries made 
>on your name servers and provides details on the status of any failed or 
>passed tests.  If you are running BIND versions which can be hacked, or 
>are insecure, those detail are reported and supporting information 
>provided to assist you in closing potential security holes. 
>
>A separate message has been emailed to you with instructions on how to 
>extract information on your servers from our databases.  It's fairly 
>simple, all you have to do is reply to the message and keep the subject 
>line intact.  We have emailed it with a subject header labeled 
>CONFIDENTIAL.  In the event you may want to forward this message to 
>others, you can do so without inadvertently allowing access to your 
>database records.
>
>We hope that you find this information of assistance.  Our intention is 
>to fix the numerous problems encountered in the public domain name 
>system.  This year we enumerated in excess of 200,000 name servers.  
>Of those 25,000 have misconfigured SOA records, 12,000 do not resolve, 
>62,000 are no longer operational and 22,000 can be easily hacked.
>
>                        - ICANN -
>
>In conclusion I would like to ask that you take an active role in 
>Internet Governance.
>
>The United States Government has assigned control of the Internet 
>Domain System and Infrastructure to ICANN (The Internet Corporation 
>for Assigned Names and Numbers) which represents big business 
>interests, trademark lawyers and public telephone companys.  ICANN 
>intends to tax domain names and the ip infrastructure.  To date a 
>number of regulation have been imposed on internet registrars which 
>take away existing rights and claims to second level domain names.
>
>As a result of these efforts, a number of organizations have started 
>alternate root infrastructures and intend in competing with ICANN.
>
>This November 1-4 ICANN will be holding public meetings in Los Angeles.
>If you live in or near LA, please try to attend.  If you don't, you can 
>participate via remote.  Please help us get the word out.
>
>Information on the meeting is available at:
>
>    http://bind1999.pccf.net/resources/meetings/
>
>Information on the people involved in what has been termed the domain 
>name system wars is available at:
>
>    http://bind1999.pccf.net/resources/
>
>It is critcal to the internets future that it remain an open system.  As a 
>domain administrator you have control over the root cache file which now 
>points to the United States Government (USG) root servers.  If you don't 
>like what ICANN and the USG is doing - you have the power to switch.
>
>A number of alternative root servers now exists to assist you in making 
>that choice.
>
>Thank you for your time.
>
>                                           Regards
>                                           Joe Baptista, Director
>                                           Public Research
>
>----- End forwarded message -----
>
>Message #2
>----- Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----
>Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 05:23:11 -0500
>Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: CONFIDENTIAL @TICKET:Nn181H4N@[EMAIL PROTECTED] - ACCESS to BIND
>report
>
>-
>
>Hello:
>
>   *******************************************************************
>   * ATTENTION - Our SMTP (MailServers) are being subjected to a DOS *
>   * (Denial of Service) Attack.  Please see the following URL for   *
>   * more instructions    http://bind1999.pccf.net/resources/        *
>   *                                                                 *
>   * BECAUSE OF THIS ATTACK - you may receive two copies of this     *
>   * this email.                                                     *
>   *******************************************************************
>
>This message is automatically generated by the BIND (Berkeley Internet 
>Name Daemon) Survey maintained by Planet Communications & Computing 
>Facility, Ottawa, Ontario.
>
>A message with a detailed explaination of the survey has been emailed to 
>you under separate email cover.
>
>                 ATTENTION - WARNING - ATTENTION
>
>This message contains details and access instructions on recovering survey 
>data collected by us from the public domain name system.  A report of all 
>name servers under your SOA RR (source of authority resource record) in 
>which you have been listed as hostmaster.
>
>To recover the information - you can reply to this message making sure you 
>keep the subject header intact, or you can email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a 
>subject line of:
>
>        @TICKET:Nn181H4N@[EMAIL PROTECTED]    
> 
>
>Please include the entire ticket - including ending period.
>
>Please make sure you delete the body of the message, so you don't 
>confuse our mailers.
>
>Please note, it may take up to 24 hours for the system to compile your
>report.  We are currently experiencing a denial of service attack 
>which has delayed delivery of email.
>
>If you mailer sends autoreplies, you may already have your report. 
>
>
>                                           Regards
>                                           Joe Baptista, Director
>                                           Public Research
>
>
>----- End forwarded message -----
>
>--------------End of forwarded message-------------------------
>
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>William X. Walsh - DSo Internet Services
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fax:(209) 671-7934
>Editor of http://www.dnspolicy.com/
>
>
>
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