At 08:30 AM 1/14/00 , Tamar Frankel wrote: >In the US legitimacy is gained more by the trustworthiness of the system >than that of the leadership. We trust the banks but not necessarily the >bankers. We trust the constitution and political system but not necessarily >the politicians. This balance may be different in other countries. So, from >the US perspective, the ability of the system to ensure good successors is >crucial. I believe that in ICANN's case-the ability of the leaders to >establish such a systm is the main test. Hi Tamar, Why is this the "main" test? Doesn't ICANN's flagrant disregard for process in pursuit of an agenda cause you any concern? Hasn't this disregard for process established a system favorable to a minority, at the expense of the majority? How many tests will you give ICANN before you admit that it is a sham? Jay. P.S. Congratulations to John et al -- they obviously put a lot of work into their paper. I certainly hope they receive extra credit. FWIW, I especially liked their conclusion: "It is therefore more important to ensure that a healthy system is installed, rather than just a competent management structure. While our analysis has not been exhaustive, it nevertheless points to the conclusion that, likely, ICANN is not this structure." >Tamar > >At 05:58 AM 1/14/00 -0500, you wrote: > >Yes, and their ability and that of the system to ensure good successors. > > > >Esther Dyson > > > >At 04:29 pm 01/13/2000 -0800, Greg Skinner wrote: > >>Just one minor comment (for now). The proposed new structure for ICANN > >>closed with this comment: > >> > >>"The question then becomes whether ICANN has sufficient time to foster the > >>goodwill necessary for it to establish the requisite legitimacy to > >>authoritatively act. Furthermore, the legitimacy cannot be tightly tied > >>to the skills of its leaders, since this introduces the danger of an > >>"ad-hocracy," in that a system whose successes are dependent on the talents > >>of its leadership decays when those leaders exit." > >> > >>Don't you (the authors of the draft) think that to a certain extent, any > >>"governance" system is dependent on the skills and talents of its leaders? > >>"Governance" systems tend to break down when the leaders are felt to be > >>incompetent, unqualified, or otherwise inappropriate to lead. Thus part > >>of the skills and talents of the leaders would be the ability to gain the > >>trust of those they lead. > >> > >>--gregbo > >> > > > > > >Esther Dyson Always make new mistakes! > >chairman, EDventure Holdings > >chairman, Internet Corp. for Assigned Names & Numbers > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >1 (212) 924-8800 -- 1 (212) 924-0240 fax > >104 Fifth Avenue (between 15th and 16th Streets; 20th floor) > >New York, NY 10011 USA > >http://www.edventure.com http://www.icann.org > > > >PC Forum: 12 to 15 March 2000, Scottsdale (Phoenix), Arizona > >Book: "Release 2.1: A design for living in the digital age" > >High-Tech Forum in Europe: October 2000 - probably Barcelona > > > > > > Respectfully, Jay Fenello, New Media Relations ------------------------------------ http://www.fenello.com 770-392-9480 Aligning with Purpose(tm) ... for a Better World ------------------------------------------------------ "We are creating the most significant new jurisdiction we've known since the Louisiana purchase, yet we are building it just outside the constitution's review." -- Larry Lessig, Harvard Law School, on ICANN
