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>!Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
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>DEar All
>
>
>>
>> Well - Michael - this is one of my concerns - the people involved in this.
>>
>> Conrad along with Vixie took over the BIND maintenance. The result of
>> that is every BIND since 4.9.4 has been buggy. In fact BIND is to a large
>> extent the unix joke version of gates windows.
>
>I feel that I need to say some thing here. BIND may not be the best
>product that can be but it is acceptable for the time being and
>available free to all of us. If any one is unhappy about it he(she) can
>always come out with some thing better and offer to all of us. Bill Gate
>had made(and continue to make) a lot of money with his Windows but I
>don;t think our friends had made any fortune with BIND yet!!!
>It is very unfair to laugh at them when they had provided free and
>voluntary efforts!
>
>
>>
>> Further to that - I have the man lying in public about PCCF. Disgraceful
>> - although good for marketing purposes. I don't feel confident that ARIN
>> can properly represent my IP interests under the circumstance, nor am I
>> happy with the fact that no direct vehicle exists.
>
>Good, then go and do some thing with the ARIN members. Or set up an
>alternative organization to represent you and your peers.
>
>
>>
>> It's just another ICANN power trip. ARIN has never advised me that I
>> could be a member - it has never solicited my participation, and yet these
>> are serious issues which clearly affect the IP infrastructure and the
>> whole internet community, very shameful situation we have here.
>
>I can't comment here as I am not a member of ARIN and don't know how
>they work. Do they have your info as a potential eligible member?
>HOwever, I feel that you should seek any redress you feel justifiable
>directly with ARIN and if still not satisfied maybe you should gang up
>with the other ARIN members and potential members to work out a suitable
>solution among yourselves. It has nothing to do with ICANN.
>Regards.
>
>>
>> Regards
>> Joe Baptista
>>
>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Michael Sondow wrote:
>>
>> > David R. Conrad wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I'm curious: have you complained to the FCC about not having democratic
>> > > representation in the allocation of E.164 addresses to end users? How 'bout
>> > > to the IEEE in the allocation of 802.3 addresses?
>> >
>> > David Schutt's intelligent reply to this just about says it all. I
>> > would only add that the relinquishment of democratic rights in one
>> > area of communications, even if it were true, is hardly a good
>> > argument for relinquishing them in all other areas. If your argument
>> > were sound, we might as well abandon the democratic ideal altogether
>> > and turn over our lives to the dictators. Is that what you'd like to
>> > see?
>>
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