>From: "Posegate, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: RE: [awpd] AN ACTIVIST AMONGST THE ROBBER BARONS
>Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 11:17:50 -0700
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>Did you ever stop to wonder why, with what 75%? of Internet connections,
>domains, users, in the US, ICANN holds its meetings in Chile, Germany, etc.
>I expect that Antarctica is coming up on the calendar soon.
>
>Dave 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jay Fenello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 4:22 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [awpd] AN ACTIVIST AMONGST THE ROBBER BARONS
>
>
>
>
>This is a report on a WTO strategy session on how to
>undermine NGO's and prevent future protests by holding
>them in locations with less freedom to protest.
>
>AN ACTIVIST AMONGST THE ROBBER BARONS
>
>[Bruce Silverglade of the Center for Science in the Public Interest managed 
>to get himself invited to a day-long high-level seminar on "After Seattle: 
>Restoring Momentum to the WTO." Speakers included Clayton Yeutter (former 
>Secretary of Agriculture), Robert Litan (former Associate Director of the 
>White House Office of Management and Budget), Lawrence Eagleburger (former 
>Secretary of State), and Luiz Felipe Lamreia, the foreign Minster of 
>Brazil. His fly-on-the-wall report is worth quoting at some length]:
>
>I was disappointed that only one representative like myself from a 
>non-profit organization concerned about the impact of the WTO on food 
>safety regulation was invited. But I was pleased that the door had been 
>opened and I looked forward to [it].
>
>. . As it turned out, I got a lot more than I bargained for. The seminar 
>turned out to be a strategy session on how to defeat those opposed to the 
>current WTO system. Apparently, no one knew who I was (perhaps my graying 
>temples and dark suit helped me blend in with the overwhelming older male 
>group of attendees) and I did not speak up until the end of the meeting.
>
>The meeting was kicked off by a gentleman named Lord Patterson who was 
>Margaret Thatcher's Secretary of State for Trade and Industry. He began by 
>stating that our number one job is to restore confidence in the WTO before 
>embarking on any new rounds of trade negotiations. So far, so good, I
>thought.
>
>But he then proclaimed that non-profit groups have no right to criticize 
>the WTO as undemocratic because the groups themselves do not represent the 
>general public. (I wondered which groups he was talking about because 
>organizations that are gravely concerned about the impact of the WTO on 
>environmental and consumer protection, like the Sierra Club and Public 
>Citizen, have hundreds of thousands of members). He then stated that we 
>must never have another WTO meeting on US soil because it was too easy for 
>advocacy groups to organize here and security could not be assured.
>
>. . He added that President Clinton's speech during the WTO meeting in 
>Seattle, in which the president acknowledged the protesters' concerns, was 
>"disgraceful" and stated that it was also disgraceful that delegates to the 
>WTO meeting in Seattle had to survive on sandwiches and couldn't get a 
>decent meal during three days of social protest. The Lord finished his 
>speech by recalling better times having tea with Maggie, and stating that 
>the staff of the WTO Secretariat should not be balanced with people from 
>developing countries just because of the color of their skin. After a few 
>words with the chairman of the meeting, Lord Patterson added "Oh, I hope I 
>have not offended anyone."
>
>. . The largely American audience of trade officials and policy wonks took 
>the Lord's pronouncements seriously. The first comment by an American, 
>picked up on the criticisms and asked 'How can we de-legitimize the NGOs?' 
>The questioner claimed that these groups are usually supported by just a 
>few charitable foundations and if the foundations could be convinced to cut 
>off funding, the groups would be forced to cease operations.
>
>Mr. Litan, the former White House budget official, had another approach. He 
>[asked] can't we give the NGOs other sandboxes to play in and have them 
>take their concerns to groups like the International Labor Organization (a 
>toothless United Nations sponsored-group). The representative from the US 
>Trade Representative's office said nothing.
>
>. . Under the banner of rebuilding public confidence in the WTO, [former 
>Agriculture Secretary] Yeutter concurred with his British colleague's 
>suggestion that the next WTO meeting be held in some place other than the 
>US where security can be assured. He further suggested that the WTO give 
>the public little advance notice of where the meeting would be held to keep 
>the protesters off balance. He said that the protesters' demands for 
>greater transparency in WTO proceedings was a misnomer because the 
>protesters didn't really want to participate in WTO proceedings -- all they 
>wanted was to get TV coverage and raise money for their organizations.
>
>. . The day ended with the usual Washington reception . . . During desert, 
>the foreign minister of Brazil lamented that if the next WTO meeting had to 
>be held in an out of the way place, he preferred that it be held on a 
>cruise ship instead of in the middle of the desert. He then gave an 
>impassioned speech in which he opposed writing core labor standards into 
>the WTO agreement and defended child labor by describing how in one region 
>of Brazil, more than 5,000 children "help their families earn a little 
>extra money" by hauling bags of coal from a dump yard to a steel mill. He 
>stressed, however, that the children do not work directly in the steel 
>mill.  He was greeted by a hearty round of applause.
>
>INSTITUTE FOR AGRICULTURE AND TRADE POLICY
>http://www.iatp.org
>
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(Paul Neufeld Weaver, Worthington MN)
>
>###
>
>Respectfully,
>
>Jay Fenello,
>New Media Strategies
>------------------------------------
>http://www.fenello.com  770-392-9480
>Aligning with Purpose(sm) ... for a Better World
>------------------------------------------------
>"If we want to change the world, we have to
>begin by changing ourselves" -- Deepak Chopra
>
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><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Did you ever stop to wonder why, with what 75%? of =
>Internet connections, domains, users, in the US, ICANN holds its =
>meetings in Chile, Germany, etc.&nbsp; I expect that Antarctica is =
>coming up on the calendar soon.</FONT></P>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Dave </FONT>
></P>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Jay Fenello [<A =
>HREF=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>]</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 4:22 PM</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: [awpd] AN ACTIVIST AMONGST THE ROBBER =
>BARONS</FONT>
></P>
><BR>
><BR>
><BR>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>This is a report on a WTO strategy session on how =
>to</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>undermine NGO's and prevent future protests by =
>holding</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>them in locations with less freedom to =
>protest.</FONT>
></P>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>AN ACTIVIST AMONGST THE ROBBER BARONS</FONT>
></P>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>[Bruce Silverglade of the Center for Science in the =
>Public Interest managed </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>to get himself invited to a day-long high-level =
>seminar on &quot;After Seattle: </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Restoring Momentum to the WTO.&quot; Speakers =
>included Clayton Yeutter (former </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Secretary of Agriculture), Robert Litan (former =
>Associate Director of the </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>White House Office of Management and Budget), =
>Lawrence Eagleburger (former </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Secretary of State), and Luiz Felipe Lamreia, the =
>foreign Minster of </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Brazil. His fly-on-the-wall report is worth quoting =
>at some length]:</FONT>
></P>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I was disappointed that only one representative like =
>myself from a </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>non-profit organization concerned about the impact =
>of the WTO on food </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>safety regulation was invited. But I was pleased =
>that the door had been </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>opened and I looked forward to [it].</FONT>
></P>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>. . As it turned out, I got a lot more than I =
>bargained for. The seminar </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>turned out to be a strategy session on how to defeat =
>those opposed to the </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>current WTO system. Apparently, no one knew who I =
>was (perhaps my graying </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>temples and dark suit helped me blend in with the =
>overwhelming older male </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>group of attendees) and I did not speak up until the =
>end of the meeting.</FONT>
></P>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The meeting was kicked off by a gentleman named Lord =
>Patterson who was </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Margaret Thatcher's Secretary of State for Trade and =
>Industry. He began by </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>stating that our number one job is to restore =
>confidence in the WTO before </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>embarking on any new rounds of trade negotiations. =
>So far, so good, I thought.</FONT>
></P>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>But he then proclaimed that non-profit groups have no =
>right to criticize </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the WTO as undemocratic because the groups =
>themselves do not represent the </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>general public. (I wondered which groups he was =
>talking about because </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>organizations that are gravely concerned about the =
>impact of the WTO on </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>environmental and consumer protection, like the =
>Sierra Club and Public </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Citizen, have hundreds of thousands of members). He =
>then stated that we </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>must never have another WTO meeting on US soil =
>because it was too easy for </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>advocacy groups to organize here and security could =
>not be assured.</FONT>
></P>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>. . He added that President Clinton's speech during =
>the WTO meeting in </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Seattle, in which the president acknowledged the =
>protesters' concerns, was </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&quot;disgraceful&quot; and stated that it was also =
>disgraceful that delegates to the </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>WTO meeting in Seattle had to survive on sandwiches =
>and couldn't get a </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>decent meal during three days of social protest. The =
>Lord finished his </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>speech by recalling better times having tea with =
>Maggie, and stating that </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the staff of the WTO Secretariat should not be =
>balanced with people from </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>developing countries just because of the color of =
>their skin. After a few </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>words with the chairman of the meeting, Lord =
>Patterson added &quot;Oh, I hope I </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>have not offended anyone.&quot;</FONT>
></P>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>. . The largely American audience of trade officials =
>and policy wonks took </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the Lord's pronouncements seriously. The first =
>comment by an American, </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>picked up on the criticisms and asked 'How can we =
>de-legitimize the NGOs?' </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>The questioner claimed that these groups are usually =
>supported by just a </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>few charitable foundations and if the foundations =
>could be convinced to cut </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>off funding, the groups would be forced to cease =
>operations.</FONT>
></P>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Mr. Litan, the former White House budget official, =
>had another approach. He </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>[asked] can't we give the NGOs other sandboxes to =
>play in and have them </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>take their concerns to groups like the International =
>Labor Organization (a </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>toothless United Nations sponsored-group). The =
>representative from the US </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Trade Representative's office said nothing.</FONT>
></P>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>. . Under the banner of rebuilding public confidence =
>in the WTO, [former </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Agriculture Secretary] Yeutter concurred with his =
>British colleague's </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>suggestion that the next WTO meeting be held in some =
>place other than the </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>US where security can be assured. He further =
>suggested that the WTO give </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the public little advance notice of where the =
>meeting would be held to keep </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the protesters off balance. He said that the =
>protesters' demands for </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>greater transparency in WTO proceedings was a =
>misnomer because the </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>protesters didn't really want to participate in WTO =
>proceedings -- all they </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>wanted was to get TV coverage and raise money for =
>their organizations.</FONT>
></P>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>. . The day ended with the usual Washington reception =
>. . . During desert, </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the foreign minister of Brazil lamented that if the =
>next WTO meeting had to </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>be held in an out of the way place, he preferred =
>that it be held on a </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>cruise ship instead of in the middle of the desert. =
>He then gave an </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>impassioned speech in which he opposed writing core =
>labor standards into </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the WTO agreement and defended child labor by =
>describing how in one region </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>of Brazil, more than 5,000 children &quot;help their =
>families earn a little </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>extra money&quot; by hauling bags of coal from a =
>dump yard to a steel mill. He </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>stressed, however, that the children do not work =
>directly in the steel </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>mill.&nbsp; He was greeted by a hearty round of =
>applause.</FONT>
></P>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>INSTITUTE FOR AGRICULTURE AND TRADE POLICY</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><A HREF=3D"http://www.iatp.org" =
>TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.iatp.org</A></FONT>
></P>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: =
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>(Paul Neufeld Weaver, Worthington MN)</FONT>
></P>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>###</FONT>
></P>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Respectfully,</FONT>
></P>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Jay Fenello,</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>New Media Strategies</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>------------------------------------</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><A HREF=3D"http://www.fenello.com" =
>TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.fenello.com</A>&nbsp; 770-392-9480</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Aligning with Purpose(sm) ... for a Better =
>World</FONT>
><BR><FONT =
>SIZE=3D2>------------------------------------------------</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&quot;If we want to change the world, we have =
>to</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>begin by changing ourselves&quot; -- Deepak =
>Chopra</FONT>
></P>
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>
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