Roeland and all,

  That in part is why he (Dave Crocker) is known far and wide as
"The Crock".   ROFLMAO!!  "ad hominem police", that's good
Roeland.  Is he the "Chief of the Internet mailing list ad hominem
police"?
I think this is a new title for Dave.  Richard, you need to update your
link on Dave Crocker to reflect this new Title!  I guess this would
potentially make Kent Crispin "Deputy Chief  of the Internet mailing
list ad hominem police"?

Roeland Meyer (E-mail) wrote:

> All of this, from the man who carries the sole title of "ad
> hominem police".
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Owner-Domain-Policy
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of Dave Crocker
> > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 7:33 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Small businesses register most dot-coms
> >
> >
> > At 06:14 PM 6/4/00 -0700, Karl Auerbach wrote:
> > >On Sun, 4 Jun 2000, Kent Crispin wrote:
> > >(By-the-way, I would appreciate it if you would shut down
> > your spam relay.
> > >I have received an unacceptable degree of commercial junk
> advertising
> > >email that was forwarded through a machine in your domain.)
> >
> > Karl,
> >
> > it is customary a) not to broadcast problem reports publicly,
> > and b) to
> > provide diagnostic details.  Since you are quite familiar
> > with both these
> > points, it suggests that you are far more interested in issuing
> public
> > abuse than in fixing a problem.
>
> This is cute ... someone operating an open-relay, that is
> actively being used by spammers, accusing the victim of being
> abusive. David, are you joining the spam brigade?
>
> > > > [..usual tedious rhetoric deleted..]
> > >Yours?
> >
> > Again,  you show more interest in game playing than substance.
> >
> >
> > > > that was involved in the formation of the DNSO.  Indeed,
> > it was messy,
> > > > and there were many ugly compromises.
> > >
> > >I'll agree to the "ugly" but to nothing else you said.  I'd
> > modify your
> > >use of the word "compromises" to say that ICANN was
> > compromised by the
> > >constituency structure.
> >
> > Yet more linguistic game-playing, worthy only of the type of
> jousting
> > attorneys, more intent on winning or confusing, than in
> reaching an
> > understanding.
>
> Dave, where's the substance. What linguistic game playing are you
> refering to?
>
> > >The Dept of Commerce, on the other hand, is supposed to be
> part of a
> > >democratic government.
> >
> > a) you need to learn far more about the specifics of the US
> form of
> > government; the simplistic labels and model you profess are
> > not tied to
> > this reality, and
>
> Funny, I thought that was correct. Yes, it is more accurately a
> Federal Republic, but that's not 100% either. Publically, we
> style ourselves as democratic. It appears that you are of the
> opinion that we live in something a bit more totalitarian?
>
> > b) the DoC's activities have been subject to not-a-little
> > political and
> > public review; if there actions were as thoroughly
> > unacceptable as you like
> > to paint them, then we all would have seen serious force of
> > action against
> > them; perhaps you have missed the resounding absence of it?
> >
> >
> > The aggregation of the observations I am making show clearly
> > that serious
> > discussion is not your goal.  And since your many and varied
> > mis-characterization of technical and procedural fact have
> > been amply and
> > repeatedly corrected, it is unlikely that the rest of this
> > list's readers
> > stand to benefit from continuing the repartee.
> >
> > Hence I'll refrain from further comment on your blustering,
> > and sincerely
> > hope others will too.
>
> Who is the one doing the blustering here?

Regards,

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