>Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: BOUNCE [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Non-member submission from [Jonathan Cohen ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] >Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:14:39 -0400 (EDT) > >>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 31 11:14:38 2000 >Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Received: from borg.echelon.ca (dns.echelon.ca [199.85.4.4]) > by ns1.vrx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5BEF168 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:14:37 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from shapirocohen.com ([205.233.36.250]) > by borg.echelon.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12459; > Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:14:06 -0400 (EDT) >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:20:27 -0400 >From: Jonathan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) >X-Accept-Language: en >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: "vinton g. cerf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: Esther Dyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Curtis E. Sahakian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [icann-board] Re: You are Turning Away Outside Members Who AttemptTo > Register >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > should we not extend the time for registration of at large members. Even if it is >only for 5 days or so it may go some considerable length to deflect the >concern(criticism) that just as the ''public'' becomes aware of the ICANN process >after our outreach programme we 'shut the door' leaving thousands without a vote. I >know this 'take' is not fair but it is real and so is the problem,,,,,, can we >extend ...a little and at least be able to say we tried as far as was possible AND >were not 'inflexible' >thoughts and comments? >Jonathan > > > > > > >"vinton g. cerf" wrote: > >> Curtis, >> >> I wanted to add a little bit of data since, from the perspective of someone >> who is trying to register (I've been where you are), it isn't obvious. There >> have been something like 145,000 registrations on a system designed originally >> for a total of about 10,000. The staff has worked miracles, believe it or not, >> to increase the ability of the system to respond - but we have limited budget >> and limited time - to say nothing of risking the possibility of eroding the >> integrity of the accumulated database with any significant changes to the >> current system. We HAVE been able to increase total intake, but the demand >> has more than matched every increase in capacity. >> >> No one knew, a priori, what the demand for voter registration would be, but >> the random rate control is not selective in any fashion. Also keep in mind >> that we also have to print and mail PIN numbers in time for them to arrive >> so they can be used to confirm registration and there is a time limit after >> which it is too risky to mail PINs and still meet the voting deadlines. >> >> These problems motivated our plan for a full review of the process after his >> first round of elections. Plainly scaling must be addressed among other things. >> >> Please believe me, there is no deliberate attempt to color any outcome - only >> to try to keep the system functioning at some level of responsiveness. >> >> Vint Cerf >> >> At 12:31 PM 7/28/2000 -0400, Esther Dyson wrote: >> >At 10:47 AM 7/28/00 -0400, Curtis E. Sahakian wrote: >> > > >> > >Esther, >> > > >> > >My understanding is that ICANN, closes registeration for voter >> > >membership in ICANN after JULY 31. >> > > >> > >I have tried twice to register, Your server says: "We are >> > >sorry. The database is currently overloaded. >> > >Please try again when the system is less busy." >> > > >> > >ICANN is denying me the right to vote. What possible excuse can >> > >it have? >> > > >> > >This is not right. It reminds me of voter registration problems >> > >blacks used to have in the South until the U.S. goverment sent >> > >troops and federal marshals there. >> > > >> > >You should either get the ICANN staff behaving properly or >> > >accept personal responsibility for their actions and resign. As >> > >best I can tell from quotes in the press, you seem to be doing >> > >neither. >> > > >> > >Why is that? >> > > >> > >Curtis Sahakian >> > >847/676-2774 >> > > >> >> ================================================================= >> I moved to a new MCI WorldCom facility on Nov 11, 1999 >> >> MCI WorldCom >> 22001 Loudoun County Parkway >> Building F2, Room 4115, ATTN: Vint Cerf >> Ashburn, VA 20147 >> Telephone (703) 886-1690 >> FAX (703) 886-0047 >> >> "INTERNET IS FOR EVERYONE!" >> INET 2001: Internet Global Summit >> 5-8 June 2001 >> Sweden International Fairs >> Stockholm, Sweden >> http://www.isoc.org/inet2001 > > > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ph-1.613.473.1719 "The truth is always hard. The only truly punishable offense in Washington is to tell the truth. You will get along in Washington better by lying one way or the other. If you tell the truth you are unlikely to be forgiven." - Prof. Angelo Codevilla, The Washington Weekly, July 17 2000
