I'd like to know where Mr. Baker was hiding when Mr. Bush "threatened
to kill peoples parents with a fire axe."
Goose. Gander. Nail. Head. Bang.
At 08:29 PM 8/1/00 -0400, Michael Sondow wrote:
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>From: Michael Sondow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: [dnso.discuss] Re: Complaint to Dept of Commerce on abuse
> of users by ICANN
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>Fred Baker wrote:
>>
>> This is an ad hominem statement. Ad hominem attacks have no place on an
>> engineering list. If you dislike Mr. Bush or have an issue with the work he
>> does, take that up with him in private.
>
>As a matter of fact, Mr. Baker, I was replying to an email that Mr.
>Bush sent to a series of email addresses that included that of the
>IETF. His message was full of ad hominem attacks on others, so I am
>justified in using the same against him. Did you take him to task
>for his ad hominem attacks, in his original message? If not, why do
>you do so with me?
>
>> If you have a comment regarding the
>> engineering of the Internet, make it. If you have a comment regarding
>> ICANN, not only does DoC NTIA not run ICANN, the IETF doesn't run
>> ICANN either.
>
>Well, in the first place, I don't take orders from you, Mr. Baker.
>So you can take your strident orders to me and put them where they
>fit best.
>
>Secondly, as I said above, I was replying to a post of Mr. Bush. His
>was no less, and perhaps no more, concerned with engineering than
>mine. Did you ask him to cease sending non-engineering posts to your
>precious list? If not, why do you do so with me?
>
>Thirdly, you are obviously mistaken about ICANN. DOC NTIA does run
>it, since ICANN has no power or authority whatsoever beyond the
>contracts that DOC NTIA has signed with it. ICANN is, both de facto
>and de jure, a sub-contractor of the DOC, and so has it been judged
>by the GAO and the courts.
>
>> You notice that I have managed to not spam the world with my CC line.
>
>That is only because you are embarrassed for the world to see what
>you have written.
>
>
>Michael Sondow
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