Hello Stephen --

My take on all this is that;

First: The .us TLD has been a wasteland since it was created.
(This is why I have always avoided any us of .US;-)...

and that;

Second: Now it is going to get worse.
(Whichis why I am very happy with my prior choices;-)....

Neustar understands things in terms of Telephone Central Offices,
where the central office has full control of all delegations down
to the last delegated digit of each subscriber's phone number.

Now, they are not aware of several things, such as, if they control
the content of the master records of your entire zone and all of its
delegations, then they  are liable to you for errors and failures to
proper keep and maintain and promptly service your need under your
delegation.

Perhaps you might want to have your lawyers explain these liabilities
in a letter to Neustar.  If they demand that they have full control,
then logic follows that they assume liability for the quality of your
zone records, and for the timely maintenance there-of.

I suspect that Neustar has not yet thought all this through.

Holding power over the quality of other people's assets is not
a one way street.  It only comes with serious liabilities.

Cheers...\Stef


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>There seems to be some misunderstanding about the nature of "delegation"
>in the procedures Neustar envisions, and even in the DOC contact.
>
>There is too much data on the Internet to centralize it.  This is why we
>use the DNS instead of hosts.txt.  When ISI delegated Fitchburg.WI.US to
>me, I take over the responsility for data in that zone, by maintaining
>it myself, and by delegating futher subzones.
>
>Neustar indicates that we must, according to the DOC contract (which I
>have not read), provide to Neustar registration data for all the zones
>under the delegated zone.  This is preposterous.  It's unlikely their
>systems can scale to serve all that data.  There could be thousands of
>domain names for individuals just in my city of 20,000 residents.
>
>If they have all that data, why do they need a delegated manager?
>Indeed, if we are not "sufficiently responsive" to requests for service
>in our delegated zones, they threaten that they will revoke the
>delegation unilaterally.
>
>I see no technical need for Neustar to have access to any registration
>data in any delegated zone.  There is no reason to develop a way to
>transfer that data to Neustart.  There is no reason to open our zones to
>Neustar for zone transfers.  And finally, there is certainly no reason
>for registrants in delegated zone or delegated managers to pay Neustar a
>fee for anything.  By analogy, I don't pay Network Solutions/Versign for
>delegations under Arnold.com!  (Neustar can register names at the second
>level to earn money.)
>
>I do recognized the need for a process to allow a local government or
>other RFC 1480 organization (library, school, etc.) to recover control
>of their domain from a delegated manager who is profiteering from it or
>providing inadequate service.  However, this process must not be
>initiated by Neustar.  It must be initiated only by a zone's proper
>constituents.  Having Neustar be able to revoke a zone leaves us open to
>abuse of power by Neustar.
>
>I also see a legitimate role for Neustar to maintain the delegation
>data, so other name servers can find our name servers, and so
>prospective registrants can find our administrative contact addresses.
>The text file now on line, corrected with up-to-date data from time to
>time, serves this need.
>
>(People can also find me through http://Fitchburg.WI.US and through
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]  I hope other delegated managers do the
>same.  I appreciate the idea, from this list, of pointing a wildcard
>Address record for *.Fitchburg.WI.US at Fitchburg.WI.US's IP address, so
>prospective registrants can easily determine if a domain is available.)
>
>I would be interested in hearing if other delegated managers agree that
>this is a flaw in the DOC/Neustar design.
>
>Regards,
>"Steve"   Stephen L. Arnold, Ph.D., President, Arnold Consulting, Inc.
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