On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 12:56 -0400, Nathan Hamiel wrote: > > It's the ultimate of elitism to say that the reason someone > finds no value in something is that they are not doing it > right. I at one point had 4 Facebook accounts and 4 Twitter > accounts. I canceled most of them due to a lack of value > regarding my time.
There is something to be said for doing things the right way to find value. At the same time, right or wrong, some things people will never see value in, and nothing will change that. Some people do not use a toilet when they go to the bathroom. You can tell them all day long the value in a toilet. Even if used right. They still might prefer going as mother nature intended. Its more green anyway :) > That is not what I said at all. Please, if you are going to quote or > paraphrase something I said ensure the message is correct. There is a > difference between doing something wrong as you put it and not doing > something at all. That was my point. There is nothing elitist about > that, it's about understanding. Someone who sits on the outside of > something and analyzes it will never have the perspective of someone > who has been on the inside. All I did was add evidence to the > contrary. I think I made valid points, but whatever. I really do not think I need to engage in using Twitter to get an idea of the value. Again I have used similar mediums for many more years than Twitter has even existed. Tell me what Twitter can do for me IRC cannot? > I don't even want to ask why having 4 Facebook accounts and 4 Twitter > accounts was even necessary because I don't want to prolong this > discussion on a list that probably doesn't care. So i'll leave it at > that. Nothing wrong with prolonging this discussion. That was some what the intention with my initial post. > The network as William says is a medium. It's people and > connections that matter. And I found it's much more valuable > to meet them in person. The in person aspect has been so lost in technological communication. It might come back with all the devices having cameras now. Though even then, seeing someone and being in their presence is still not the same. > But in our modern world that isn't possible or even necessary in some > situations. Yes, its really hard to be caring for someone via a web cam. There is only so much technology can do to help us, before it gets in our way and becomes harmful just the same. > You can have interactions with people where it may not be possible > meet in person. So you are saying there is no value in creating a > social connection with someone that you can't meet in person? You can create that connection via many means, doesn't have to be socially, or using social networks. We have been communicating and getting things done in distributed working environments for quite some time now. > This is ridiculous, especially in a world driven by technology. My > value of a relationship has no bearing on whether I can meet them in > person or not. You can also extend the relationship of someone you > have met in person through a social network. Yes and people can now go and research social aspects of your life and things that they would only know otherwise. Unless you told them, and/or they were there with you during those events. Now expand that to include everyone you have not met or socially interacted with. They have access to the same public social information. > I go to security conferences every year. I meet people, we talk, etc. > Then throughout the rest of the year there is an information exchange > through a social network. That is valuable as an augmented > communication to where you have met someone in person. Interesting, I wonder what the long term repercussion of that might be. Do you think those you are trying to secure things against ignore your presence and activity? For everything we value as good, someone else might value them as bad, or even worse use it for no good :) -- William L. Thomson Jr. Obsidian-Studios, Inc. http://www.obsidian-studios.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- Archive http://marc.info/?l=jaxlug-list&r=1&w=2 RSS Feed http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml Unsubscribe [email protected]
