William,

This is both thought-provoking and insightful. And in my opinion, oh so true. 
You should clean up a few of the post's incomplete sentences and post this on 
a blog or somewhere where everyone can see it, because it's something that 
really needed to be said.

I'm passing this on to GoLUG.

SteveT

On Wednesday 04 May 2011 17:05:53 William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> When it comes to computers, the lines between hobbyists and
> professionals is really blurry. To a point I lean more toward hobbyists
> than professionals, with the following three examples as my argument
> there. Though likely can produce more than 3.
> 
> Was Steve Wozniak a hobbyist or professional when he was building
> computers in Steve Jobs's garage? Sure he was working for HP, but was
> building computers a profession or hobby for him? What was the result of
> that? Apple
> 
> Lets take a more modern example, which is covered in a recent movie,
> that I have yet to see. Was Mark Zuckerberg a hobbyist or professional?
> What was the result of those efforts? Facebook
> 
> How about another example more specific to this list and users group.
> Was Linus Torvalds a professional or hobbyist? Keep in mind it was
> supposed to be called Freak. What was the result of Linus efforts? Linux
> 
> What ever happened with the professional interest behind IBM's OS/2?
> That was never developed by nor targeted for sale to hobbyists, just
> professionals.
> 
> It has come up a few times before if the JaxLUG caters to hobbyist or
> professionals. Which in that process hobbyists tend to get discounted
> and discarded as unimportant. When if anything professionals should be
> discounted more. Quite many things with computers, and surely with Linux
> started out more as a hobby than profession, later turning into a
> profession. Thus if this was a chicken/egg scenario, the hobbyist
> clearly must come before the professionals.
> 
> From my own experience, I feel I might have been more creative and
> thinking out of the box. When I was less of a professional. The more you
> look to what you do as having to provide a return on investment, getting
> paid for your efforts. Your creativity can go out the door a little bit.
> After all your not doing it out of passion, but out of the need or want
> for money.
> 
> Not to mention with regard to the JaxLUG, hobbyists likely have more to
> contribute and benefit than professionals. After all professionals want
> that to relate to their work, pocket book, etc more than a hobbyists.
> Not to underestimate or discount the importance or value of
> professionals. I am just tired of hobbyists being seen as a negative
> thing. There are likely considerably more hobbyists than professionals
> end of the day. Thus its a bigger market, with greater potential.
> 
> Finally its not like this area is known for its technology or
> creativity. I think we should look more at what made that happen in
> others areas. It wasn't the contributions and things coming from the
> professional world so much as others. Lets keep that in mind, and not be
> on a professional high horse :)
> 
> Anyway just some food for thought, and discussion.
> 
> P.S.
> Can't believe a movie was made on Facebook, where is the one on Apple or
> Google or other companies that have effected many more lives on a daily
> basis? Clearly pop culture wins again :(
> 
> Really good movie to see, the "Pirates of Silicon Valley". Or the old
> documentary by Walter Cronkite called "Silicon Valley: A 100 Year
> Renaissance" Or "OS Revolution" which was played at a JaxLUG meeting
> back in 2003 I believe. Likely many others, and if others have
> suggestions welcome to mention them. I highly recommend the first two,
> and might seem a bit dated. Bit the history remains and doesn't change.

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