I used to think so. The code he wrote, seemed simple and easy to read, but for some reason Google hated it. I've attached the files that did the old header on my site.
My designer was impressed with the no-table method that he coded. I was too, as I hadn't tried this before (I'm old school to much sometimes). However, after my experience, I have gone back to using tables, using simple mouse over code. My experience was over a year ago, but CSS has been out for a really long time. It confused me greatly. When I changed back to tables, within a month, my traffic came back. As any SEO guy will tell you, could have been other factors. But my traffic and rankings have just increased since the change. I could be totally off, but that is just my experience. Now I stick to text links with :hover CSS or image links where ever possible. We have done hundreds of sits in the last year and my theory has held up, but I'm in no way a CSS expert. I didn't even use it until the early 2000's. I'm a late adopter of new HTML techniques because I believe the search engines are not going to re-write their parsers every 6 months to take new techniques into account. Especially when they rank based on time on the web. I think a lot about the fact that I might just be an old school'er holding onto the past. Then in other areas, I have already written and launched an ASP.NET 2.0 enterprise application and it has been out less than 2 months. It's an eternal struggle of what to learn and what not to learn. Jacob Cameron Blue Lantern, Inc. (972) 226-9595 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bluelantern.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Ivanoff Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 9:29 AM To: Dallas/Fort Worth ColdFusion User Group Mailing List Subject: Re: [DFW CFUG] fyi - Free CSS Navigation Menu Designs, cssbackgrounds and boxmodels... I doubt you still have that code for the css menus but I'd like to look at it or where you got it from. the menus that I sent is a list of links and uses css to style them. I'm not sure if that would effect the search engines. isn't a link a link? john On 12/23/05, Jacob Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just an FYI: A few years ago one of my designers re-designed my corporate > site and used CSS navigation. The code was really cool and over my head. > It used one image for navigation and shifted the viewable part of it on > mouse over. I thought it was awesome, at first. However, my sites google > ranking dove and my sub-pages that used to have rankings got nothing and no > longer appeared in Google at all. > > I got down to 10 unique visitors a day. After about 6 months of watching > this, I went in and changed the navigation back to simple tables and mouse > overs and that got my ranking back up and now I get about 200 unique > visitors a day. > > As always, with all new technologies, be mindful of your search engine > rankings. I use CSS for a lot of things, but want to warn everyone to be > careful with css navigation menu's. > > Jacob > > Jacob Cameron > Blue Lantern, Inc. > (972) 226-9595 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.bluelantern.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of John Ivanoff > Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 8:51 AM > To: dfw cfug > Subject: [DFW CFUG] fyi - Free CSS Navigation Menu Designs, css backgrounds > and boxmodels... > > Free CSS Navigation Menu Designs > http://www.exploding-boy.com/2005/12/21/more-free-css-navigation-menu-design > s/ > > Naughty or Nice? CSS Background Images > http://24ways.org/advent/naughty-or-nice-css-background-images > > 3D CSS Box Model > http://www.hicksdesign.co.uk/boxmodel/ > > and what ever uber geek needs for Christmas (it's work safe) > http://descartavel.com/img/rsstroom.jpg > > John > > _______________________________________________ > Reply to DFWCFUG: > [email protected] > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists1.safesecureweb.com/mailman/listinfo/list > List Archives: > http://lists1.safesecureweb.com/mailman/private/list > http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40list.dfwcfug.org/ > http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40dfwcfug.org/ > DFWCFUG Sponsors: > www.HostMySite.com > www.teksystems.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Reply to DFWCFUG: > [email protected] > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists1.safesecureweb.com/mailman/listinfo/list > List Archives: > http://lists1.safesecureweb.com/mailman/private/list > http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40list.dfwcfug.org/ > http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40dfwcfug.org/ > DFWCFUG Sponsors: > www.HostMySite.com > www.teksystems.com/ > _______________________________________________ Reply to DFWCFUG: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists1.safesecureweb.com/mailman/listinfo/list List Archives: http://lists1.safesecureweb.com/mailman/private/list http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40list.dfwcfug.org/ http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40dfwcfug.org/ DFWCFUG Sponsors: www.HostMySite.com www.teksystems.com/
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font-family: Helvetica, "Lucida Grande", Arial, Verdana, sans-serif;
font-size: 12px;
line-height: 18px;
color: #000000;
background: #fff url(images/bkg_main.jpg) left top repeat-x;
text-align: center;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
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li{
font-family: Helvetica, "Lucida Grande", Arial, Verdana, sans-serif;
font-size: 12px;
line-height: 18px;
}
a {
color: #0071BC;
text-decoration: none;
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form {
padding: 0;
margin: 0;
}
a:hover {
color: #000;
text-decoration: underline;
}
.clearfix:after {
content: ".";
display: block;
height: 0;
clear: both;
visibility: hidden;
}
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/* End Holly Hack */
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/* debug
div {
border: 1px solid #f00;
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width: 0;
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p {
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padding: 0 0 10px 0;
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margin: 0;
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font-weight: bold;
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padding: 35px 0 0 0;
width: 772px;
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margin: 0;
padding: 0;
width: 260px;
height: 60px;
text-indent: -9999px;
position: absolute;
z-index: 9999;
top: 0px;
left: 506px;
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width: 260px;
height: 60px;
display: block;
background: transparent url(images/blLogo.gif) left top repeat-x;
text-decoration: none;
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padding: 0;
margin: 0;
height: 212px;
border: 0px solid #f00;
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background: transparent url(images/sectionBlurb_home.jpg) left top no-repeat;
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background: transparent url(images/sectionBlurb_productsAndSer.jpg) left top no-repeat;
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background: transparent url(images/sectionBlurb_ourClients.jpg) left top no-repeat;
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margin: 0;
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padding: 0;
margin: 0;
float: left;
width: 506px;
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margin: 0;
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margin: 0;
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margin: 0;
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font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
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margin: 0;
padding: 0;
width: 266px;
height: 65px;
text-indent: -9999px;
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margin: 0;
padding: 0 15px 0px 20px;
font-size: 10px;
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margin: 0;
font-size: 10px;
line-height: 15px;
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padding: 10px 10px 0 10px;
margin: 0;
text-align: justify;
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margin: 0;
padding: 0 10px;
}
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padding: 10px 0;
border-top: 1px solid #000;
font-size: 12px;
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margin: 0;
padding: 10px 0 10px 0;
font-size: 12px;
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margin: 0;
padding: 0;
font-size: 14px;
font-weight: bold;
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padding: 10px 10px 0 10px;
margin: 0;
text-align: justify;
}
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padding: 0;
margin: 0;
float: right;
width: 266px;
text-align: justify;
}
#body4 #mainCopy div {
padding: 10px;
margin: 0;
}
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padding: 0 0 10px 0;
margin: 0;
float: right;
width: 506px;
}
#body4 #sideContent div {
padding: 10px;
margin: 0;
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padding: 0 10px 10px 10px;
margin: 0;
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font-size: 16px;
font-weight: bold;
}
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display: block;
padding: 0 0 5px 0;
margin: 0;
font-size: 12px;
font-weight: normal;
}
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display: block;
width: 100%;
font-family: Helvetica, "Lucida Grande", Arial, Verdana, sans-serif;
font-size: 12px;
}
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width: auto;
font-size: 9px;
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-weight: bold;
color: #fff;
background: #0071BC;
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padding: 0 10px 0 0;
margin: 0;
float: left;
}
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padding: 0 10px 10px 30px;
margin: 0;
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#mainCopy ol {
padding: 0 10px 10px 30px;
margin: 0;
}
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margin: 0;
padding: 0;
text-indent: -9999px;
}
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margin: 0;
padding: 0;
width: 266px;
height: 60px;
text-decoration: none;
display: block;
background: transparent url(images/onlinePaymenet.gif) left top no-repeat;
}
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float: left;
width: 260px;
}
#OnlineCopy div {
padding: 5px 5px 10px 10px;
text-align: justify;
}
#OneTimePayment, #ReecurringPayments {
margin: 0;
padding: 0 0 10px 0;
float: left;
width: 256px;
}
#OneTimePayment h3, #ReecurringPayments h3 {
background: transparent url(OnlinePayment/images/onetimeTitle.jpg) left top no-repeat;
padding: 0;
margin: 0;
width: 256px;
height: 65px;
text-indent: -9999px;
display: block;
text-align: left;
}
#ReecurringPayments h3 {
background: transparent url(OnlinePayment/images/recurringTitle.jpg) left top no-repeat;
}
#OneTimePayment div, #ReecurringPayments div {
padding: 0 10px 20px 10px;
background: transparent url(OnlinePayment/images/boxBottom.jpg) left bottom no-repeat;
}
#OneTimePayment p, #ReecurringPayments p {
font-size: 11px;
/* font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; */
}
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display: block;
margin: 0;
padding: 0 0 10px 0;
}
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width: 230px;
font-family: Helvetica, "Lucida Grande", Arial, Verdana, sans-serif;
font-size: 12px;
}
#OneTimePayment .button, #ReecurringPayments .button {
font-size: 9px;
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-weight: bold;
color: #fff;
background: #0071BC;
}
#footer {
clear: both;
padding: 10px 0;
margin: 0;
text-align: center;
border-top: 1px solid #0071BC;
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 9px;
font-weight: bold;
}
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