Good points, Jeff. :)
I sure hope someone has an answer for you. I'll let you know if I can
think of anything simpler.
Chris
Jeff Mayfield wrote:
At 08:09 AM 7/13/2006, you wrote:
I work
for a small
consulting firm for which I do CF programing almost exclusively.
However,
as a company we often set up backups for our clients. I can think of
one
client where we backed up their entire network to a linux box over a
gigabit connection (samba was thrown in to the solution there
somewhere).
Those backups lived on external USB hard drives (one for each day of
the
week), so they could move unused drives off site if they wished.
Since you're not a windoze guy, have you considered a linux solution
like
this? We just set up a cron job to run our "little" backup
script. Like I said, my role in the company is just about exclusively
CF
programming, so I don't know allot of the gritty details, but I thought
this might spark some creative ideas from you or the group.
:)
Good idea but this would be too complicated for my friend to deal with
if
he had a crisis. Reloading the OS and setting up the network to be
able to get to the backup server is way beyond his abilities. I'm
looking for something that can image the entire disk over the weekend
and
then do incremental backups each day where all he will have to do is
boot
from a CD or floppy and follow a dialog to restore the entire system to
where it was the previous night.
Also (and
I'll be
letting my ignorance show here), why can't you just ghost the domain
controller as well?
Actually the problem exists when trying to back up the controller - the
DB server works perfectly because the controller is available.
Ghost runs in DOS mode. When the domain controller restarts itself
in DOS it no longer validates user/pass for the network, including for
itself. I'm sure it can be set up to work but I figured it was
easier to find some kind of turnkey software than to try and learn how
to
do that or to set up a secondary controller.
And
speaking
specifically of CF backups I only bother to back up my code (since the
server does nothing else outside of hosting our CF programs). If the
server dies I just rebuild it, and then copy my backup of wwwroot over
the newly created wwwroot. Does anybody else do anything more than
that?
That is how I've always handled web servers. DB servers I made a DB
dump and prayers were answered when I never had to use it.
I had a lot more faith in being able to reload MySQL than I did SQL
Server.
Chris
Tim Fitzpatrick wrote:
I don't think it's OT,
Jeff,
everyone needs to back up their CF servers!
I don't have an anwer for you, just wanted to say that... but I'm also
curious to see what is suggested.
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I believe by putting OT in the subject I have not violated any rules of
the group. If so feel free to flame me as it is deserved and know
that it was out of ignorance and not a disregard of proper etiquette.
A friend with a small company and limited budget has called in a favor
asking me to set up a completely hands off nightly back up of his 2 NT
servers.
My first attempt was to use Ghost to create an image of the entire HDD
for both servers on a separate machine, which I was then going to ftp
those files to a computer set up at his house. It's a 9-5 office so
the downtime while Ghost ran in DOS mode was not an issue, he could
tolerate losing an entire day's data with minimal pain, it would give
him
a second copy at a remote location to deal with major catastrophe such
as
fire, and should he ever need to restore he would only need to boot
from
a floppy I prepared and follow a simple dialog to restore the entire
system.
In theory it's a perfect solution, right ???
Why is it all the theoretical perfect solutions never work?
He has a domain controller. I say domain controller instead of
primary domain controller because there is no secondary. Can't boot
the machine on the network without a domain controller and creating a
secondary is probably not too difficult but I'm not a windoze guy so
don't really have a clue.
Any ideas how I can accomplish my mission without spending more than a
couple hundred dollars cash and a couple more hours of my time? In
the event he ever has to restore the backup it has to be a simple
process
because checking mail and browsing the web are challenging to him.
Also, any recommendations for an automated FTP program that can handle
this simple task? I'm sure I can find one but recommendations would
help so that it is hopefully reliable and easy to use.
TIA
Jeff
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