I forgot to mention that you will indeed have to use Enterprise for that
ability.

On 9/24/07, Dave Shuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Christopher, they are simply spouting off about things that they don't
> have knowledge about nor understand.  Since at least version 7 (possibly
> 6.1, but I don't think so), ColdFusion has had the ability to be deployed
> by way of sourceless deployment.  There are many articles explaining how to
> do this, but in essence you install it into a J2EE server as a compiled java
> application.
>
> For bullet points to back this up, and for a few additional bullet points
> related to security, check this link:  
> http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/coldfusion7/features/
>
>
> In short:
> _____________
> EAR/WAR deployment
>
> Deploy an application and the entire ColdFusion runtime as a standard
> Java™ archive (EAR or WAR file). Moving ColdFusion applications into
> production in J2EE environments has never been easier.
> Sourceless deployment
>
> Optionally omit unencrypted ColdFusion Markup Language (CFML) source in
> ColdFusion applications packaged as J2EE archives, allowing applications to
> be redistributed and helping protect sensitive information.
> _____________
>
> When you take this approach, there is absolutely no difference between
> this and any other Java application that they deploy.
>
> ~Dave
>
> On 9/24/07, Ron Mast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >  I'm thinking you could map a drive to your application server from your
> > web server and then assign that drive as the home directory and I believe
> > you can connect to SQL server via network to create an ODBC or JDBC
> > connection. Haven't tried it but I'm guessing that would work. Hopefully I
> > didn't misunderstood you.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ron Mast
> >
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> > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > *On Behalf Of *Christopher Jordan
> > *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2007 12:56 PM
> > *To:* Dallas/Fort Worth ColdFusion User Group Mailing List
> > *Subject:* [DFW CFUG] Security Questions
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I need some advice. One of our bigger clients has a handful of Java
> > developers working for them who don't particularly like ColdFusion. While
> > their initial complaints were that it wasn't open source and that you're
> > tied to one particular company (thoughts which I quickly squashed), now
> > they're whispering in the ear of the decision makers that Cold Fusion won't
> > do "Three Tiered Security".
> >
> > I just now think I remember asking the group about this once before, but
> > it's probably worth talking about again. Their idea of the three tiered
> > security model is that there's a web server, an application server, and a
> > database server. The web server contains no code, no passwords, and can only
> > communicate to the application server by virtue of the web server's IP
> > address, and because the web server is the only machine that knows where the
> > application server is. Sounds a bit like "security through obscurity" to me,
> > but what do I know?
> >
> > Anyway, these Java developers are telling the decision makers at this
> > client that ColdFusion just isn't secure because it can't do this three
> > tiered security stuff, but Java can. So they're saying, "why don't you just
> > let us rewrite everything in Java for you?"
> >
> > Well, while my little company has never run CF as anything but a windows
> > service, using CF Standard. We figure that it's written in Java so we ought
> > to be able to make CF run in this sort of three tiered environment too.
> >
> > So my questions are:
> >
> >    * Are these developer's right? Is CF not capable of running this
> > Three Tiered model, and are we less safe for it?
> >    * If in fact, CF *can* run in this Three Tiered model, will we need
> > to upgrade to CF Enterprise to do it?
> >    * Lots of our code is proceedural, though we've been switching to
> > using CFCs slowly (not really OO, but rather storing related queries, and
> > functions in CFCs)
> >    * What arguments can we make to our client on this subject?
> >    * Can anyone point me to any articles or other materials online
> > concerning this topic specific to CF?
> >
> > Thanks for any help guys and gals. I'm going to cross-this to CF-Talk,
> > so I apologize in advance for any duplication I may cause.
> >
> > Chris
> >
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