Have you tried the -m option with ping6? According to the FreeBSD man page
it will suppress fragmentation of the ICMP packets. This might help find
the MTU minimum for the path in question.


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Adam Hunt <[email protected]> wrote:

> What do you have your MTUs and MSS set at on each of the interfaces? From
> what I can tell the interfaces that might play a roll in this issue are the
> WAN link, the tunnel link, and the MTU on the Tunnel Broker site.
>
> I have to move some furniture for the next couple hours. After that I'll
> try to sit down and experiment with various sized packets using ping.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Jim Thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Adam Hunt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for confirming this. I'm glad that I'm not the only one and/or I'm
>> not completely inept. I'll sit down later today and play with the various
>> MTU settings (WAN, HEv6 tunnel, and the setting on the "advanced tab" of
>> Tunnel Broker's site) and see what, if anything, I can get to work
>> consistently.
>>
>> I don't know what browser you use but I found a simple Chrome extension
>> that has been helpful in determining what protocol (v4/v6) is being using
>> used to connect to any specific site. It's called IPvFoo and is available
>> in the webstore (http://goo.gl/kxKVhx). It adds a little 4 or 6 icon on
>> the right of the URI bar that when clicked on shows what portions of the
>> page were served using what protocol.
>>
>> Again, thanks for confirming this. At certain points I was beginning to
>> doubt myself as things would work on second and break for seemingly no
>> reason the next.
>>
>> --adam
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Adam Thompson <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> I'm having the same problem as a recent reporter (whose email I already
>>> can't find).
>>> I've got a tunnel set up to HE.NET <http://he.net/>, and experience
>>> difficulty browsing to (e.g.) redmine.pfsense.org.
>>> Testing shows that the largest ICMP payload I can exchange is 1232 bytes
>>> ("ping -l 1232 redmine.pfsense.org" works, 1233 doesn't).
>>> If I stop and reload the page in my browser, everything works fine - I
>>> don't know yet if that's because the browser falls back to IPv4 or because
>>> the MTU problem suddenly fixes itself.
>>>
>>> -Adam Thompson
>>>  [email protected]
>>>  Tel: (204) 291-7950
>>>  Fax: (204) 489-6515
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Adam (and Adam),
>>
>> Seems easy enough to reproduce, assuming that my substitution of '-s' for
>> '-l' is legit.
>>
>> jims-mini:~ jim$ ping6 -s 1232 redmine.pfsense.org
>> PING6(1280=40+8+1232 bytes) 2610:160:11:33:84b5:f958:6545:af1c -->
>> 2610:160:11:3::100
>> 1240 bytes from 2610:160:11:3::100, icmp_seq=0 hlim=62 time=1.625 ms
>> ^C
>> --- redmine.pfsense.org ping6 statistics ---
>> 1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
>> round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev = 1.625/1.625/1.625/0.000 ms
>>
>> jims-mini:~ jim$ ping6 -s 1233 redmine.pfsense.org
>> PING6(1281=40+8+1233 bytes) 2610:160:11:33:84b5:f958:6545:af1c -->
>> 2610:160:11:3::100
>> ^C
>> --- redmine.pfsense.org ping6 statistics ---
>> 4 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss
>>
>> Note that I'm … "really close".
>>
>> jims-mini:~ jim$ traceroute6 redmine.pfsense.org
>> traceroute6 to redmine.pfsense.org (2610:160:11:3::100) from
>> 2610:160:11:33:84b5:f958:6545:af1c, 64 hops max, 12 byte packets
>>  1  2610:160:11:33::2  1.888 ms  1.861 ms  1.461 ms
>>  2  2610:160:11:12::2  1.984 ms  2.107 ms  2.303 ms
>>  3  2610:160:11:3::100  2.172 ms  2.275 ms  2.250 ms
>> jims-mini:~ jim$
>>
>> Given same, it almost has to be the pfSense box, since once I'm on
>> redmine, huge packets pass.
>>
>> jim@redmine:/home/jim % traceroute6 -n he.net
>> traceroute6 to he.net (2001:470:0:76::2) from 2610:160:11:3::100, 64
>> hops max, 12 byte packets
>>  1  2610:160:11:3::2  0.381 ms  0.336 ms  0.349 ms
>>  2  2610:160:11::1  4.210 ms  1.249 ms  2.435 ms
>>  3  2610:160:0:11::4  2.556 ms  2.611 ms  0.993 ms
>>  4  2610:160:0:53::17  10.253 ms  10.212 ms  10.408 ms
>>  5  2001:504:0:5::6939:1  12.735 ms  10.145 ms  15.192 ms
>>  6  2001:470:0:258::1  32.502 ms  27.384 ms  27.439 ms
>>  7  2001:470:0:24a::2  62.184 ms  43.638 ms  43.681 ms
>>  8  2001:470:0:16a::1  53.841 ms  46.596 ms  53.421 ms
>>  9  2001:470:0:2f::1  59.776 ms
>>     2001:470:0:18d::1  46.394 ms  46.766 ms
>> 10  2001:470:0:2d::1  55.180 ms  49.954 ms  49.308 ms
>> 11  2001:470:0:76::2  50.513 ms  50.814 ms  50.959 ms
>> jim@redmine:/home/jim % sudo ping6 -s 3500 redmine.pfsense.org
>> PING6(3548=40+8+3500 bytes) 2610:160:11:3::100 --> 2610:160:11:3::100
>> 3508 bytes from 2610:160:11:3::100, icmp_seq=0 hlim=64 time=0.106 ms
>> 3508 bytes from 2610:160:11:3::100, icmp_seq=1 hlim=64 time=0.074 ms
>> 3508 bytes from 2610:160:11:3::100, icmp_seq=2 hlim=64 time=0.076 ms
>> 3508 bytes from 2610:160:11:3::100, icmp_seq=3 hlim=64 time=0.069 ms
>> 3508 bytes from 2610:160:11:3::100, icmp_seq=4 hlim=64 time=0.074 ms
>> ^C
>> --- redmine.pfsense.org ping6 statistics ---
>> 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
>> round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev = 0.069/0.080/0.106/0.013 ms
>> jim@redmine:/home/jim %
>>
>>
>> That said, I'm on redmine with IPvFoo loaded, and it's reporting that I'm
>> hitting the IPv6 site, and I'm not having any issues.
>>
>> We'll look into it and get back to you.
>>
>> jim
>>
>>
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