Guess I struck a nerve. You have no clue what my stance has been on the growing surveillance state for the past decades, so I think it is you who should curtail his speech.
Yup. They called us paranoid and tinfoil hat and conspiracy theorists. Surprisingly, it continues to this day. On Oct 9, 2013, at 10:46 PM, Michael Schuh <[email protected]> wrote: > @Chris L > > i am not responsible, if you didn't get it. > > if one comes to me with worries about an completely free open source system > by using an Closed Source SHIT. > <<< this is ridoculous > > He should first consider his Closed Source Shit. > Now i find also his nick misleading, he should name NON-Thinker! > he should make his name a honor by doing himself the favor and use his brain. > > > Get this out of the pfSense lists. > This is a support list and not an philosophers corner what everything is bad > in the world. > > SUPPORT LIST for pfSense. GET IT > > just to point it out: > ppl. whose are supporting closed source software are also supporting the NSA > and all the other kind of shit. > As long as one uses closed source software he should shut the fuck up. > As long as one uses the internet he should shut the fuck up. > As long as one uses TCP/IP he should shut the fuck up. > As long one is using Smartphones, Credit-Cards, Onlinebanking, Online-shops > and so on > shut the fuck up. > > if one cannot understand why: > Internet -> invented by DARPA > TCP/IP -> invented by DARPA > RSA encryption -> financed by DARPA/NSA/Government > > alternatives: invent a new internet including a new internet protocol and all > the stuff around it. > > otoh he is to late. he missed the important points. > the leaked informations about Xkeysystem are from 2005 or 2008, huuuhaa and > now they all whine. > if your holyness mr snowden wouldn't be such a hero, you wouldn't even know, > care or worry about it. > so this is entirely ridiculous. one more time. > where are you been as it was important to care about it? eh? > > at the times we warned the people, nobody would listen and called us > those who warned them: paranoid. > > everyone uses high technologized stuff without to have any clue about how > this works, > if ppl. like us told them: learn this stuff, it can be dangerous > the answer was: naahh thats not important, i know what i am doing. you are > paranoid, nobody would ever do so. > > i see. and now they come and whine ...pah *lol* > > this has nothing to do with head meet sand. > may be, your head should get out of the sand. > > ridiculous. this entire thematics is ridicoulus. > > > = = = http://michael-schuh.net/ = = = > Projektmanagement - IT-Consulting - Professional Services IT > Rev. Michael Schuh > Ordained Dudeist Priest > Postfach 10 21 52 > 66021 Saarbrücken > phone: 0681/8319664 > @: m i c h a e l . s c h u h @ g m a i l . c o m > > = = = Ust-ID: DE251072318 = = = > > > 2013/10/10 Chris L <[email protected]> > On Oct 9, 2013, at 9:06 PM, Michael Schuh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > ridiculous > > Head, meet sand. > > Then again, consider the country of origin. They have a history of not > recognizing naked tyranny and evil until it's far too late. > > They will be in good company with all the apologists for the current American > surveillance state. > > > > > > vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv > > From: Thinker Rix <[email protected] > > > > > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; > > rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > > > > > = = = http://michael-schuh.net/ = = = > > Projektmanagement - IT-Consulting - Professional Services IT > > Rev. Michael Schuh > > Ordained Dudeist Priest > > Postfach 10 21 52 > > 66021 Saarbrücken > > phone: 0681/8319664 > > @: m i c h a e l . s c h u h @ g m a i l . c o m > > > > = = = Ust-ID: DE251072318 = = = > > > > > > 2013/10/10 Chris Buechler <[email protected]> > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Thinker Rix <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > Dear pfsense-team, > > > > > > today I posted the following on your blog at > > > http://blog.pfsense.org/?p=712 > > > > > > > > > ################################################ > > > > > > “Worried User Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. > > > > > > October 9th, 2013 at 7:55 am > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > I want to ask if you have been approached by any US government officials, > > > such as NSA, FBI, etc. and been asked/ forced to include any backdoors, > > > spyware, loggers, etc. into pfsense and if you did so. > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > Worried User” > > > > > > ################################################ > > > > > > > > > Some minutes later I could see that my entry was not released to the > > > public > > > - but deleted by the moderator, without any further comment. > > > > > > > Not true, the comment was moderator approved. The only reason we have > > moderation at all is because spam significantly outnumbers legit > > comments and we don't want any spam on any of our sites, there isn't > > some vast conspiracy going on. > > > > No, we have not been approached by anyone to backdoor or otherwise > > compromise security of the project, at any point during our 9 year > > history. > > > > I have indeed met with the NSA in person related to the product of one > > of our rebrand customers a couple years back, one of their groups was > > interested in evaluating the product. It survived their security > > analysis quite well (at least from what they declassified and > > released), and better than most things that come into their lab from > > what I understand. At no point did any discussion happen related to > > back doors or other means of compromising security for them. I wasn't > > under NDA nor do I have a security clearance. > > > > It is effectively a moot question to ask, given if we were, there's no > > way we could disclose that. Evidence suggests a number of huge tech > > companies have complied. There hasn't been any evidence to date that > > any open source projects were approached. A number of widely-respected > > security people have come out and said that open source solutions are > > better in the aftermath of the recent revelations. One example: > > "My guess is that most encryption products from large US companies > > have NSA-friendly back doors, and many foreign ones probably do as > > well. It's prudent to assume that foreign products also have > > foreign-installed backdoors. Closed-source software is easier for the > > NSA to backdoor than open-source software." -Bruce Schneier > > https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/09/how_to_remain_s.html > > > > On crypto-related components, we rely on what's in stock FreeBSD. > > There are no indications it has been weakened or compromised. > > _______________________________________________ > > List mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo/list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > List mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo/list > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo/list > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo/list _______________________________________________ List mailing list [email protected] http://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo/list
