On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Thinker Rix <[email protected]>wrote:
> On 2013-10-11 21:20, Walter Parker wrote: > >> Who would you trust more that ESF? Why,specifically, would you trust >> another group of people to be more trustworthy? >> > > The point is not untrusting ESF or anybody else. The point is that ESF is > based in the USA, a country where the current government can force you to > do things against your community without having any chance to escape from > it; they just force you to do so. > Do you really believe that any other government is less interested in this than the USA? I certainly don't. The only difference is that the USA * currently* has a very powerful surveillance entity (as do the UK and a bunch of others), and most other countries *currently* do not. I do not believe for a second that the project would be any safer long-term under the jurisdiction of any other country. I propose that you actually find a government of any first-world country that ins't interested in spying on the rest of the world. I direct you to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intelligence_agencies - and you can start by corssing off almost every single country on that list. > So the point of the whole idea that we evaluate here is: How can we secure > pfSense from this nasty government so that they can not just force ESF or > anybody else to comply with them. If "this nasty government" is all you care about, then your security goals are very short-sighted. Start worrying about all the other nasty governments. I guarantee you there are lots more of them. Moshe
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